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> I have no idea why you're attacking gov.uk for it - I repeat, they had literally nothing to do with it. I'm answering your questions as frankly as I can. The
by forloop 12y ago
> I have no idea why you're attacking gov.uk for it - I repeat, they had literally nothing to do with it.
I'm answering your questions as frankly as I can. The questions involve gov.uk, and so the answers involve gov.uk.
> gov.uk is a platform developed by the GDS, not simply a namespace.
From the outside it's difficult to make the distinction. I'm talking from the perspective of a user.
> Before, we had a pile of independent websites built and maintained by each Government department with no integrated search or organisation, a lot of duplicated technical effort as everyone had to maintain their own CMS, and an extremely poor user experience.
For the scope of gov.uk, I can appreciate how that's beneficial. The dynamic I've seen is there's a bad solution to something which isn't even a problem—as there are already better job sites around. If my premise is correct, then even if gov.uk solved the UX problem for Universal Jobmatch, it's still solving a problem which doesn't really need to be solved (a clone of a job website isn't very valuable). And that government fixes problems which it creates, and then pats itself on the back. What I've said goes outside of the specific points I've been making, but that's how I see the context.
I'm not even anti-government, necessarily. I'm still making my mind up. Maybe the need for inequality is more important than efficiency and maximum wealth? Some of the things governments do are egregious; but so are some of the things individuals do. Knowing the answer wouldn't be of much benefit, anyway: the government isn't going anywhere any time soon, regardless!
- vertex-four 12y ago> The dynamic I've seen is there's a bad solution to something which isn't even a problem—as there are already better job sites around. gov.uk did not build Universal Jobmatch. gov.uk did not build Universal Jobmatch. Universal Jobmatch is not part of gov.uk. Universal Jobmatch is not part of gov.uk. It is a separate site, operated by separate people, under an entirely separate Government department, which happens to be linked from the gov.uk website. I'm not entirely sure what part of this isn't getting to you. The DWP is to blame for outsourcing Universal Jobmatch to Monster, gov.uk has absolutely nothing to do with it any more than, say, the passport office does. What you are saying is equivalent to blaming the passport office for Universal Jobmatch - it's crazy, they had nothing to do with it. If you're angry that Universal Jobmatch exists at all, that's still the DWP's fault, not gov.uk's. gov.uk doesn't get to decide other departments' policies for them, it is in charge of developing digital services to fulfil those policies - and Universal Jobmatch is a legacy system, so gov.uk didn't even do that for the DWP.
- forloop 12y ago> Maybe, once the DWP's contract with Monster expires in a few years, gov.uk will be able to make a case that they should be running it. I'm talking about a hypothetical situation based on what you said previously. If you read what I've said with that in mind, it should make sense! Why wouldn't I take account of what's already been talked about?