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Man, I finally a few years ago got completely comfortable with OSX and scripted so much stuff that I can set myself up basically anywhere in 5-10 minutes. Now I

by mrjatx 12y ago

Man, I finally a few years ago got completely comfortable with OSX and scripted so much stuff that I can set myself up basically anywhere in 5-10 minutes. Now I'm stuck on a MBPr and get to watch all of these amazing new PC laptops come out that are so innovative. All of the hybrids, convertibles, detachable convertibles, rotatable convertibles. I'm so envious. Come on Apple, seriously.

rayiner 12y ago
I've played around with a few of those devices, had a Surface for awhile, etc. Ended up moving back to a big-ass laptop (15" rMBP) and a big-ass phone (iPhone 6+). It's really hard to beat the combination of quad-core power, tons of RAM, giant battery, and lots of screen real estate.
- mrjatx 12y ago
  I'm the opposite, I loathe big laptops. I always used Thinkpad X's or the Vaio Z's connected to monitors. That way when I leave I just pop them off the dock and carry them out the door with my paperwork. Take 'em to a coffee shop or out on the porch and get some work done. On that note, I can't do the 11s though. I initially had an 11" MBA and that was way too small. I'll never do another 15" laptop!
  - rayiner 12y ago
    Fair enough. Though, my 15" rMBP is slightly lighter and 40% thinner than the 12" PowerBook G4 that used to be the height of portability not too long ago.
    - jophde 12y ago
      I have used a 15 rMBP in coach on a plane before. It's really not that big. At some point being smaller and light makes no practical difference imo.
chiph 12y ago
The MBP is not all that "pro" any more. Soldered components, the bare minimum of USB ports, no RJ-45 ethernet jack. I'd be more than willing to add thickness & weight to one in return for those features, and better thermal management.
- bwilliams 12y ago
  I don't think those features are what make it "pro". I prefer it being thinner and lighter with soldered components rather than heavier without. RJ-45's are terrible on laptops, they're ugly, bulky, and hardly used. I'd much rather just use USB -> RJ45.
  - vacri 12y ago
    You can point to any feature (excluding reliability) and claim that feature doesn't make something 'pro'. I know one senior sysadmin - the kind of guy other sysadmins go to for advice - who's getting a Novena laptop as his next machine for work. That thing doesn't come with a keyboard and exposes the motherboard when the screen is up.
  - q3k 12y ago
    Well, that's just like, your opinion, man. I've used the Ethernet controller on my laptop many more times than I've used USB 3.0. Heck, I used a USB/Serial adapter more times than I used USB 3.0. Not every professional is a web developer.
Igglyboo 12y ago
They really need to step it up this year or their status as the go to dev laptop is going to fade. I really dont know why i can't get a touchscreen MBP yet either..
- steveax 12y ago
  I don't understand the appeal of touch screens (really, not trolling). What sort of tasks do you find one superior for?
  - Igglyboo 12y ago
    They are extremely convenient when laying down on my back and my laptop is on my upper chest. It's very awkward to try and reach the touchpad in that position.
    - moe 12y ago
      Yes, I have a similar problem. I often carry my Macbook on top of my head when I go around the house. It's just really awkward to reach the touchpad that way, so I hope the next Macbook will add one on the bottom as well.
      - 72deluxe 12y ago
        I am hoping that there's a screen on both sides of the lid so that I can use it when it's shut.
josteink 12y ago
> Come on Apple, seriously. By depending on one non-standard HW supplier, you are building your own jail. Have you considered breaking out? Get out there. Try these wonderful gadgets you want so badly. Taste freedom. Freedom feels good.
- mrjatx 12y ago
  I'm actually not a fan of the hardware at all. I hate that I can't buy an actual dock to dock, so I'm unplugging ghetto caddy every time I want to take my laptop home from the office. Thing is I love OSX, and actually, not even specifically OSX, I love some of the apps MADE for OSX only. If these damned developers would make webapps or linux ports I'd LOVE to migrate back to either a thinkpad carbon X or some sort of cool new Surface Pro/convertible deal. I'm going to go through all of my apps at some point and see what I REALLY need that is OSX only. I just realized Intellij has a Linux version and so does Unity.. so, as long as I can virtualize efficiently with virtualbox or something to get .net 4.5+ stuff going I'm totally game to start working from Linux.
  - threedaymonk 12y ago
    > as long as I can virtualize efficiently with virtualbox or something You can use VirtualBox on Linux, but QEMU with KVM is, in my experience, far more efficient, and a lot less buggy.

by mrjatx 12y ago

rayiner 12y ago

I've played around with a few of those devices, had a Surface for awhile, etc. Ended up moving back to a big-ass laptop (15" rMBP) and a big-ass phone (iPhone 6+). It's really hard to beat the combination of quad-core power, tons of RAM, giant battery, and lots of screen real estate.

mrjatx 12y ago
I'm the opposite, I loathe big laptops. I always used Thinkpad X's or the Vaio Z's connected to monitors. That way when I leave I just pop them off the dock and carry them out the door with my paperwork. Take 'em to a coffee shop or out on the porch and get some work done. On that note, I can't do the 11s though. I initially had an 11" MBA and that was way too small. I'll never do another 15" laptop!
- rayiner 12y ago
  Fair enough. Though, my 15" rMBP is slightly lighter and 40% thinner than the 12" PowerBook G4 that used to be the height of portability not too long ago.
  - jophde 12y ago
    I have used a 15 rMBP in coach on a plane before. It's really not that big. At some point being smaller and light makes no practical difference imo.

chiph 12y ago

The MBP is not all that "pro" any more. Soldered components, the bare minimum of USB ports, no RJ-45 ethernet jack. I'd be more than willing to add thickness & weight to one in return for those features, and better thermal management.

bwilliams 12y ago
I don't think those features are what make it "pro". I prefer it being thinner and lighter with soldered components rather than heavier without. RJ-45's are terrible on laptops, they're ugly, bulky, and hardly used. I'd much rather just use USB -> RJ45.
- vacri 12y ago
  You can point to any feature (excluding reliability) and claim that feature doesn't make something 'pro'. I know one senior sysadmin - the kind of guy other sysadmins go to for advice - who's getting a Novena laptop as his next machine for work. That thing doesn't come with a keyboard and exposes the motherboard when the screen is up.
- q3k 12y ago
  Well, that's just like, your opinion, man. I've used the Ethernet controller on my laptop many more times than I've used USB 3.0. Heck, I used a USB/Serial adapter more times than I used USB 3.0. Not every professional is a web developer.

Igglyboo 12y ago

They really need to step it up this year or their status as the go to dev laptop is going to fade. I really dont know why i can't get a touchscreen MBP yet either..

steveax 12y ago
I don't understand the appeal of touch screens (really, not trolling). What sort of tasks do you find one superior for?
- Igglyboo 12y ago
  They are extremely convenient when laying down on my back and my laptop is on my upper chest. It's very awkward to try and reach the touchpad in that position.
  - moe 12y ago
    Yes, I have a similar problem. I often carry my Macbook on top of my head when I go around the house. It's just really awkward to reach the touchpad that way, so I hope the next Macbook will add one on the bottom as well.
    - 72deluxe 12y ago
      I am hoping that there's a screen on both sides of the lid so that I can use it when it's shut.

josteink 12y ago

> Come on Apple, seriously. By depending on one non-standard HW supplier, you are building your own jail. Have you considered breaking out? Get out there. Try these wonderful gadgets you want so badly. Taste freedom. Freedom feels good.

mrjatx 12y ago
I'm actually not a fan of the hardware at all. I hate that I can't buy an actual dock to dock, so I'm unplugging ghetto caddy every time I want to take my laptop home from the office. Thing is I love OSX, and actually, not even specifically OSX, I love some of the apps MADE for OSX only. If these damned developers would make webapps or linux ports I'd LOVE to migrate back to either a thinkpad carbon X or some sort of cool new Surface Pro/convertible deal. I'm going to go through all of my apps at some point and see what I REALLY need that is OSX only. I just realized Intellij has a Linux version and so does Unity.. so, as long as I can virtualize efficiently with virtualbox or something to get .net 4.5+ stuff going I'm totally game to start working from Linux.
- threedaymonk 12y ago
  > as long as I can virtualize efficiently with virtualbox or something You can use VirtualBox on Linux, but QEMU with KVM is, in my experience, far more efficient, and a lot less buggy.