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I don't think anyone's making machines in this class with that much RAM. They practically have to be built with on-board RAM to get this thin and there's just n

I don't think anyone's making machines in this class with that much RAM. They practically have to be built with on-board RAM to get this thin and there's just not enough demand to justify the logistics of building 16GB motherboards for them.

jbk 12y ago
The MacBook Pro 13 has an option to get 512+16GB. It's a bit heavier, but not that much. The Asus Zenbook UX303LN has 12GB (it's better), but only 256GB of SSD. I don't mind the price, I need a powerful tool.
- commandar 12y ago
  The MBP is a different class of machine. This thing is roughly the size of an 11 inch MBA.
  - lugg 12y ago
    I'm not sure how you can say that with a straight face. The next MBA is going to basically be a netbook, the MBP is already thin enough / light enough / small enough to qualify as an ultrabook in my view.
  - jbk 12y ago
    The weight isn't that different, though.
    - hsitz 12y ago
      Current 13.3" Macbook Pro weighs 3.46 pounds. The Dell XPS 13 weighs 2.6 pounds. The MBP thus weighs 32% more (0.8 pounds) than the Dell. That's a big difference to me, and to lots of people.
      - stcredzero 12y ago
        Something a bit bulkier, but a lot lighter and more durable would be great.
        hsitz 12y ago
        The upcoming Lenovo LaVie Z machines will weigh 1.7 lbs but be in a bulkier (tough) Magnesium-alloy case. Not sure if they'll have enough RAM, hd-storage, or battery-life for many, although if they're that light I'd probably be happy to carry an ac-adapter around for periodic charging: http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/Lenovo%20LaVie%20Z%20Spec%20Sheet_1%201%2015%20FINAL.pdf http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/Lenovo%20LaVie%20Z%20Spe...
        nfoz 12y ago
        You'll never heard about it in North America, but the most gorgeous laptop right now IMO is the Panasonic CF-MX3: http://panasonic.jp/pc/products/mx3s/ http://panasonic.jp/pc/products/mx3s/ It's tragically expensive to import, though.
        fudgy73 12y ago
        I want one of these, but I have no idea where to get it from: http://www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks/lifebook-s935/index.html http://www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks/l...
  - stcredzero 12y ago
    There is definitely a market for a slightly heavier, slightly thicker, but easily upgradeable machine. I know of at least one physics student who can live with 16GB, but would rather have 32GB. I would love to find a 13" form factor convertible tablet PC that's just a bit bulkier than a Macbook Air, but has something equivalent to a Wacom stylus. (EDIT, Actually, there are plenty of situations where more RAM but not more CPU would be of tremendous benefit.)
    - commandar 12y ago
      Sure, there's a market, but the question is whether there's a large enough market to justify building it. Either way, I'd say the high end computing market (which I'd say needing 16GB of RAM falls into, personally) is currently different from the ultra-light, ultra-portable market. I mean, if you need 16GB, you probably need more than a low power dual core CPU anyway, and that's not realistically going to fit into the form factor of this machine today.
- toni 12y ago
  "BTO"[1] is a laptop brand originally from The Netherlands which allows you to configure your laptop before purchasing it. I own their "X-BOOK 13CL58"[2] model with a 13.3" IPS screen, 16 GB RAM and an i7-4700MQ processor. It works pretty well for me and the screen is beautiful. I think they also ship to other Benelux countries. [1] http://www.bto.eu/contact http://www.bto.eu/contact [2] http://www.bto.eu/bto-x-book-13cl58-ips.html http://www.bto.eu/bto-x-book-13cl58-ips.html (click on "Zelf Samenstellen" tab to see self-configuration options)
MichaelGG 12y ago
ThinkPad X201 to the X230 had two memory slots, so there's nothing stopping a 2x8 layout. But for single slot machines, the real issue is Intel deliberately not supporting 16GB SODIMMs.
keeperofdakeys 12y ago
The first samsung series 9 (2011) was an ultrabook-class machine that can take 16GB worth of RAM. Though, 8GB dimm modules weren't available when it was first produced.

jbk 12y ago

The MacBook Pro 13 has an option to get 512+16GB. It's a bit heavier, but not that much. The Asus Zenbook UX303LN has 12GB (it's better), but only 256GB of SSD. I don't mind the price, I need a powerful tool.

commandar 12y ago
The MBP is a different class of machine. This thing is roughly the size of an 11 inch MBA.
- lugg 12y ago
  I'm not sure how you can say that with a straight face. The next MBA is going to basically be a netbook, the MBP is already thin enough / light enough / small enough to qualify as an ultrabook in my view.
- jbk 12y ago
  The weight isn't that different, though.
  - hsitz 12y ago
    Current 13.3" Macbook Pro weighs 3.46 pounds. The Dell XPS 13 weighs 2.6 pounds. The MBP thus weighs 32% more (0.8 pounds) than the Dell. That's a big difference to me, and to lots of people.
    - stcredzero 12y ago
      Something a bit bulkier, but a lot lighter and more durable would be great.
      - hsitz 12y ago
        The upcoming Lenovo LaVie Z machines will weigh 1.7 lbs but be in a bulkier (tough) Magnesium-alloy case. Not sure if they'll have enough RAM, hd-storage, or battery-life for many, although if they're that light I'd probably be happy to carry an ac-adapter around for periodic charging: http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/Lenovo%20LaVie%20Z%20Spec%20Sheet_1%201%2015%20FINAL.pdf http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/Lenovo%20LaVie%20Z%20Spe...
      - nfoz 12y ago
        You'll never heard about it in North America, but the most gorgeous laptop right now IMO is the Panasonic CF-MX3: http://panasonic.jp/pc/products/mx3s/ http://panasonic.jp/pc/products/mx3s/ It's tragically expensive to import, though.
      - fudgy73 12y ago
        I want one of these, but I have no idea where to get it from: http://www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks/lifebook-s935/index.html http://www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks/l...
- stcredzero 12y ago
  There is definitely a market for a slightly heavier, slightly thicker, but easily upgradeable machine. I know of at least one physics student who can live with 16GB, but would rather have 32GB. I would love to find a 13" form factor convertible tablet PC that's just a bit bulkier than a Macbook Air, but has something equivalent to a Wacom stylus. (EDIT, Actually, there are plenty of situations where more RAM but not more CPU would be of tremendous benefit.)
  - commandar 12y ago
    Sure, there's a market, but the question is whether there's a large enough market to justify building it. Either way, I'd say the high end computing market (which I'd say needing 16GB of RAM falls into, personally) is currently different from the ultra-light, ultra-portable market. I mean, if you need 16GB, you probably need more than a low power dual core CPU anyway, and that's not realistically going to fit into the form factor of this machine today.
toni 12y ago
"BTO"[1] is a laptop brand originally from The Netherlands which allows you to configure your laptop before purchasing it. I own their "X-BOOK 13CL58"[2] model with a 13.3" IPS screen, 16 GB RAM and an i7-4700MQ processor. It works pretty well for me and the screen is beautiful. I think they also ship to other Benelux countries. [1] http://www.bto.eu/contact http://www.bto.eu/contact [2] http://www.bto.eu/bto-x-book-13cl58-ips.html http://www.bto.eu/bto-x-book-13cl58-ips.html (click on "Zelf Samenstellen" tab to see self-configuration options)

MichaelGG 12y ago

ThinkPad X201 to the X230 had two memory slots, so there's nothing stopping a 2x8 layout. But for single slot machines, the real issue is Intel deliberately not supporting 16GB SODIMMs.

keeperofdakeys 12y ago

The first samsung series 9 (2011) was an ultrabook-class machine that can take 16GB worth of RAM. Though, 8GB dimm modules weren't available when it was first produced.