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Another new poster whose sole comment is on the use of the word Sausagefest. Is this the start of a grassroots campaign to change the underlying negativity of
by modfodder 12y ago
Another new poster whose sole comment is on the use of the word Sausagefest. Is this the start of a grassroots campaign to change the underlying negativity of the phrase to a positive? A group of sausage makers or butchers per chance?
- ad-hominem 12y agoAnother new poster That is an ad-hominem attack - are we better than this on HN? What does his account age matter if the point is valid?
- modfodder 12y agoWhy does the fact she used this word matter if the rest of the article is relevant. And if the poster has a problem with the rest of the article, why focus on this word choice rather than make a counter argument? And I believe my post wasn't ad-hominem because his point isn't valid.
- totony 12y agoI didn't see the post you're referring to, but, even if it is invalid, it is ad hominem to try to get your point accross by doing this. Also, the terms used in an article matter, whatever the argument. Would you appreciate an article calling an office full of women a titfest?
- modfodder 12y agoIf women had been in power for all of history and used that power to keep men subjugated, yes, I would appreciate calling an office full of women a titfest. History and context matter, unless you are part of the "men's movement".
- totony 12y agoI don't even know how to answer to that... but I will try. On a post where one desires equality, you reply that people should not be equal (regarding what we can say to them/laugh at them), because people sharing their traits (i.e. gender) did something in the past? So equality, for you, is that we can mock males, but not women (i.e. titfest vs sausagefest), because in the past women have been seen as inferior to men? Please explain to me how that is equality in any way or form. Also, can you elaborate on what is wrong with what you call "men's movement" and why you are inclined to say that they disregard history?
- modfodder 12y agoIt's not just in the past, it is on going, still in these modern times. If you can't understand what is wrong with the "men's movement", then we are too far apart in idealogy to even have a discussion. I doubt anything I say will sway you, and I'm pretty sure there is nothing you can say to defend the men's movement that will sway me (you are welcome to try if you like). But bringing up the use of the term sausagefest while ignoring the rest of the article is a large problem, the men's movement is all about point out the fly in the china shop while ignoring the fact they are the bull.
- totony 12y agoI don't know what is "men's movement", but including me in it to close an argument is VERY poor form. I'm still curious about your opinion on: "So equality, for you, is that we can mock males, but not women (i.e. titfest vs sausagefest), because in the past women have been seen as inferior to men?"
- modfodder 12y agoYou can google "men's rights movement" if you'd like more information and then decide yourself whether you agree with their stance or not. As for equality, we'll never be truly equal unless we experience at least some of what the oppressed have lived through. So yeah, I don't mind a woman using the term sausagefest, seems only fair when looking back on how men have treated women for much of history.