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By all means contradict me. Do they open source more than 25% of their code written? More than 10%? More than 1%?

Anderkent 12y ago
That's not what you claimed. You claimed they do not contribute code freely; they certainly do. It might not be a very significant percentage if their code written, but it's a fact that they contribute code to open source projects, and they do not charge for it.
- throwaway90999 12y ago
  I see the misunderstanding. When I say "contribute code freely" I mean "without restriction." You are certainly aware that the vast majority of code is under strict restrictions and will be leveraged for competitive/controlling purposes rather than being shared. Employees wishing to freely contribute code in these domains will have their requests denied. We've both been employed by large SV companies; we both know how this works. The majority of software will be used in an attempt to control the market.
  - DannyBee 12y ago
    "You are certainly aware that the vast majority of code is under strict restrictions and will be leveraged for competitive/controlling purposes rather than being shared. Employees wishing to freely contribute code in these domains will have their requests denied. " ?????? None of this is true. I mean, literally none of this. I don't even know where to begin.
    - throwaway90999 12y ago
      This isn't a complicated statement. Why are you struggling with it? Google does not open source the VAST majority of their code -- it remains tightly restricted. Surely agree this is an accurate statement?
      - DannyBee 12y ago
        Because it's an incredibly vague statement that is open to many interpretations? As written, actually, i don't agree with it. Google has open sourced > 100 million lines of source code, depending on how you count. I can't tell you what percent this is, but it is quite significant It is the vast majority of a number of products, and not the vast majority of a number of other products. In fact, for some subsidiaries, all of the code is open source. For some, it isn't. So your statement depends on a lot - who are you counting, what is "their code" (Code we've written, code we've modified, or code we use), etc If you make a detailed enough statement, i'd probably agree. But as written, there are plenty of cases where google open sources the vast majority of it's code.
        throwaway90999 12y ago
        If you insist on continuing to be disingenuous we can simply end the conversation.

That's not what you claimed. You claimed they do not contribute code freely; they certainly do. It might not be a very significant percentage if their code written, but it's a fact that they contribute code to open source projects, and they do not charge for it.

throwaway90999 12y ago
I see the misunderstanding. When I say "contribute code freely" I mean "without restriction." You are certainly aware that the vast majority of code is under strict restrictions and will be leveraged for competitive/controlling purposes rather than being shared. Employees wishing to freely contribute code in these domains will have their requests denied. We've both been employed by large SV companies; we both know how this works. The majority of software will be used in an attempt to control the market.
- DannyBee 12y ago
  "You are certainly aware that the vast majority of code is under strict restrictions and will be leveraged for competitive/controlling purposes rather than being shared. Employees wishing to freely contribute code in these domains will have their requests denied. " ?????? None of this is true. I mean, literally none of this. I don't even know where to begin.
  - throwaway90999 12y ago
    This isn't a complicated statement. Why are you struggling with it? Google does not open source the VAST majority of their code -- it remains tightly restricted. Surely agree this is an accurate statement?
    - DannyBee 12y ago
      Because it's an incredibly vague statement that is open to many interpretations? As written, actually, i don't agree with it. Google has open sourced > 100 million lines of source code, depending on how you count. I can't tell you what percent this is, but it is quite significant It is the vast majority of a number of products, and not the vast majority of a number of other products. In fact, for some subsidiaries, all of the code is open source. For some, it isn't. So your statement depends on a lot - who are you counting, what is "their code" (Code we've written, code we've modified, or code we use), etc If you make a detailed enough statement, i'd probably agree. But as written, there are plenty of cases where google open sources the vast majority of it's code.
      - throwaway90999 12y ago
        If you insist on continuing to be disingenuous we can simply end the conversation.