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Are any of these resources available for anyone who isn't already a YC founder? Does that make sense? Wouldn't it be valuable to give interested folks who aren

Are any of these resources available for anyone who isn't already a YC founder? Does that make sense? Wouldn't it be valuable to give interested folks who aren't yet in YC a place to do their prototyping, get discounts, and help, and then use it as lead gen for the next batch? Think of all the companies that could exist but don't because they don't have access to these resources.

dthal 12y ago
That makes complete sense, especially since you are not going to get in to YC as a hardware startup without a functioning prototype.
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- cpach 12y ago
  Why not? I’m pretty sure Helion (helionenergy.com) doesn’t have a working prototype.
bravo22 12y ago
What YC is doing is bundling discounts on PCB prototyping, and 3D printed parts. The rest of the offerings are further down the stack (testing, RF, etc.) so the only thing you would be missing as a non-YC company trying to build a prototype to get into YC is discounts. If you are hand assembling your prototypes then you only have PCB fabrication costs, which for a 2 to 4 layer board should be about $500 max for your protos (1 week turn). That should be doable for most start-ups, even if they need 3-4 spins.
- mwoodworth 12y ago
  They also are working on getting the tools that you need to design your prototype. Like Upverter (YCW2011) (https://upverter.com/ https://upverter.com/) for designing your PCB.
  - bravo22 12y ago
    It would be better if they offered discount pricing on something more mature and broadly used as well, like Altium.
- kenrikm 12y ago
  there are certainly cheaper options if you're willing to wait just a bit longer for example OSH Park, $5 Sq/in for 3 copies 12 Day turn around.
  - bravo22 12y ago
    Agreed. That is a good one. I was thinking of more complex board, with non-standard finish and soldermask. Even Pentalogix in Oregon offers 2-4 layer boards for about $25-$40 in two or three day turns.
- jimduk 12y ago
  What could also be valuable is having support accounts, escalation paths and relevant implementation docs/software stacks from the big CPU/Sensor/GPU/Bluetooth/Wireless companies. Getting information/support from these big companies if you have no track record can be excruciatingly inefficient.
anandhv 12y ago
This is a great question. On the softer side, coincidentally we launched our HW startup founder Q&A today. A few dozen founders (YC and otherwise) have graciously agreed to answer questions from aspiring founders. Post them here: http://forum.upverter.com/c/startup-questions http://forum.upverter.com/c/startup-questions
seddona 12y ago
We (https://circuithub.com https://circuithub.com, YC W2012) are offering special terms to YC co's but we might be able to help you out too. Drop us an email at support@circuithub.com :-)
- ChrisGammell 12y ago
  C'mon Andy, let that coupon code fly! I'll share it on the amp hour, we'll get your volume through the roof ;-)

dthal 12y ago

That makes complete sense, especially since you are not going to get in to YC as a hardware startup without a functioning prototype.

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cpach 12y ago
Why not? I’m pretty sure Helion (helionenergy.com) doesn’t have a working prototype.

bravo22 12y ago

What YC is doing is bundling discounts on PCB prototyping, and 3D printed parts. The rest of the offerings are further down the stack (testing, RF, etc.) so the only thing you would be missing as a non-YC company trying to build a prototype to get into YC is discounts. If you are hand assembling your prototypes then you only have PCB fabrication costs, which for a 2 to 4 layer board should be about $500 max for your protos (1 week turn). That should be doable for most start-ups, even if they need 3-4 spins.

mwoodworth 12y ago
They also are working on getting the tools that you need to design your prototype. Like Upverter (YCW2011) (https://upverter.com/ https://upverter.com/) for designing your PCB.
- bravo22 12y ago
  It would be better if they offered discount pricing on something more mature and broadly used as well, like Altium.
kenrikm 12y ago
there are certainly cheaper options if you're willing to wait just a bit longer for example OSH Park, $5 Sq/in for 3 copies 12 Day turn around.
- bravo22 12y ago
  Agreed. That is a good one. I was thinking of more complex board, with non-standard finish and soldermask. Even Pentalogix in Oregon offers 2-4 layer boards for about $25-$40 in two or three day turns.
jimduk 12y ago
What could also be valuable is having support accounts, escalation paths and relevant implementation docs/software stacks from the big CPU/Sensor/GPU/Bluetooth/Wireless companies. Getting information/support from these big companies if you have no track record can be excruciatingly inefficient.

anandhv 12y ago

This is a great question. On the softer side, coincidentally we launched our HW startup founder Q&A today. A few dozen founders (YC and otherwise) have graciously agreed to answer questions from aspiring founders. Post them here: http://forum.upverter.com/c/startup-questions http://forum.upverter.com/c/startup-questions

seddona 12y ago

We (https://circuithub.com https://circuithub.com, YC W2012) are offering special terms to YC co's but we might be able to help you out too. Drop us an email at support@circuithub.com :-)

ChrisGammell 12y ago
C'mon Andy, let that coupon code fly! I'll share it on the amp hour, we'll get your volume through the roof ;-)