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>If the US ever plunges into theocracy, I'm as good as dead. This is obviously (and thankfully) not going to happen.

by Jdoemk2 12y ago

pstuart 12y ago
You're either naive or a Christian doing a "no true Scotsman". And don't confuse my comments regarding abuse and misapplication of religion as demonizing people of faith, because that's not what I said. http://www.politicalresearch.org/2005/12/05/the-rise-of-dominionismremaking-america-as-a-christian-nation/ http://www.politicalresearch.org/2005/12/05/the-rise-of-domi... Mainstream GOP presidential contenders at work: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-cruz-and-mike-huckabee-follow-david-lane-s-christian-nation-road-show-michigan http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-cruz-and-mike-huck...
- mkr-hn 12y ago
  I was given a helpful bit of honesty from a former Facebook friend. I told him I'd never vote against his freedom of religion. He flat out said he couldn't say the same. I don't know how far he'd go to deny rights to people unlike himself, but it's probably more common a view than people like to admit. We're always one bad year from a new and worse way of life.
  - pstuart 12y ago
    Yeah, nice isn't it? For all of my dislike of organized religion I completely support people's right to practice how they see fit, even knowing that their faith thinks I should be killed for not believing in it. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2013:6-10 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%201...
mkr-hn 12y ago
You have more faith in the strength of our secular democracy than I do. This is a fluke of history, and I'm not sure it can last.
- Jdoemk2 12y ago
  I don't think it's a fluke of history, theocracies have been increasingly hard to come by in the past 1000 years (especially in the Western world). The US has never been a theocracy. Religious organisations are not growing in power. Even if the US were to become a theocracy, that =/= you're as good as dead. So there are a few reasons why you shouldn't feel threatened. Not saying it can't happen, but as I said it's extremely unlikely. Thankfully(!).
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  - mkr-hn 12y ago
    > Even if the US were to become a theocracy, that =/= you're as good as dead. All it takes is someone like Scott Lively getting a little power. His views are not as rare as you probably think. Like I said, I'm surrounded by people who think I'm an abomination. They're deadly serious about it.
pstuart 12y ago
Really? What do you think is happening right now? Have you paid attention to the actions of the GOP who now control Congress? http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/_i_do_not_construe_homosexual_rights_as_human_rights_says_gop_human_rights_subcommittee_head http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/_i_do_n...

>If the US ever plunges into theocracy, I'm as good as dead. This is obviously (and thankfully) not going to happen.

by Jdoemk2 12y ago

>If the US ever plunges into theocracy, I'm as good as dead. This is obviously (and thankfully) not going to happen.

You're either naive or a Christian doing a "no true Scotsman". And don't confuse my comments regarding abuse and misapplication of religion as demonizing people of faith, because that's not what I said. http://www.politicalresearch.org/2005/12/05/the-rise-of-dominionismremaking-america-as-a-christian-nation/ http://www.politicalresearch.org/2005/12/05/the-rise-of-domi... Mainstream GOP presidential contenders at work: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-cruz-and-mike-huckabee-follow-david-lane-s-christian-nation-road-show-michigan http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-cruz-and-mike-huck...

mkr-hn 12y ago
I was given a helpful bit of honesty from a former Facebook friend. I told him I'd never vote against his freedom of religion. He flat out said he couldn't say the same. I don't know how far he'd go to deny rights to people unlike himself, but it's probably more common a view than people like to admit. We're always one bad year from a new and worse way of life.
- pstuart 12y ago
  Yeah, nice isn't it? For all of my dislike of organized religion I completely support people's right to practice how they see fit, even knowing that their faith thinks I should be killed for not believing in it. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2013:6-10 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%201...

mkr-hn 12y ago

You have more faith in the strength of our secular democracy than I do. This is a fluke of history, and I'm not sure it can last.

Jdoemk2 12y ago
I don't think it's a fluke of history, theocracies have been increasingly hard to come by in the past 1000 years (especially in the Western world). The US has never been a theocracy. Religious organisations are not growing in power. Even if the US were to become a theocracy, that =/= you're as good as dead. So there are a few reasons why you shouldn't feel threatened. Not saying it can't happen, but as I said it's extremely unlikely. Thankfully(!).
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- mkr-hn 12y ago
  > Even if the US were to become a theocracy, that =/= you're as good as dead. All it takes is someone like Scott Lively getting a little power. His views are not as rare as you probably think. Like I said, I'm surrounded by people who think I'm an abomination. They're deadly serious about it.

pstuart 12y ago

Really? What do you think is happening right now? Have you paid attention to the actions of the GOP who now control Congress? http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/_i_do_not_construe_homosexual_rights_as_human_rights_says_gop_human_rights_subcommittee_head http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/_i_do_n...