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I bought js.org and want to “give it back” to the JavaScript community

28 points by jsorg 12y ago

What do you think would be most useful for the JS-community? Free subdomains for open-source projects? A CDN ? Community tools like blogs, forums, chats? *@js.org email adresses for "everyone"?

striking 12y ago
Free subdomains and email would be really cool, actually. However, who is "Everyone"? Who gets a subdomain/email address?
- jsorg 12y ago
  thats the point. I think even with a good hosting plan i could handle subdomains only in the hundreds and email adresses in the thousands?!? But how to decide... Even with a focus on open source devs.
  - Aeoxic 12y ago
    You could buy a VPS and set up the appropriate software (mailserver, web client, etc.) and offer free registration for that.
califield 12y ago
You could make it a redirect service for npm modules. e.g. https://js.org/express https://js.org/express 301 redirects to https://www.npmjs.com/package/express https://www.npmjs.com/package/express Another idea is a blog. One of my favorite blogs is http://npmawesome.com/ http://npmawesome.com/
- jsorg 12y ago
  Thats a bit nodejs focused, i think. Off-topic: The blog i like most is dailyjs...
  - bennettp123 12y ago
    How about https://node.js.org/express https://node.js.org/express instead?
    - jsorg 12y ago
      much better i think.
    - galfarragem 12y ago
      So getting practical, the main strategy would be: - When a project reaches a popularity threshold (for example 10k github stars or gets to be the most popular project is his category - example: the most popular 3D library) would get a subdomain: https://jquery.js.org/eachplugin https://jquery.js.org/eachplugin https://node.js.org/express https://node.js.org/express When we get exceptions, in this case, express grew and got autonomous, https://node.js.org/express https://node.js.org/express would redirect to: https://express.js.org/ https://express.js.org/
thekillerdev 12y ago
subdomain + email is a good thing, setup a invite only "not so" closed beta staging, see if it works. Write a user agreement understanding that this is a test enviroment and making them aknowledge that all their data hosted on that email can be erased. So you are safe, and can see if it at least work it out.
galfarragem 12y ago
You could somehow use it to establish kind of an official page to JS-community. Right now js-community is divided, there is the angular community, the jquery community, the node community, the meteor community, etc, but a JS community that would aggregate all JS project communities is not organized yet. Without it JS will always look less popular than it really is.
- mdaniel 12y ago
  That aggregation you mention is traditionally called the "planet", and has a long history: http://planet.lisp.org/ http://planet.lisp.org/ http://planet.emacsen.org/ http://planet.emacsen.org/ http://www.planetnetbeans.org/ http://www.planetnetbeans.org/ http://planetopendata.herokuapp.com/opendatanews?style=hacker http://planetopendata.herokuapp.com/opendatanews?style=hacke... There are probably several packages which will ease the creation of such a thing, but this is the one I know of: http://www.planetplanet.org/ http://www.planetplanet.org/
  - galfarragem 12y ago
    Ex. I make a search for "ruby", the first result I get is ruby-lang.org. For "python": python.org. For "clojure": clojure.org. For "PHP": php.net (...) For "javascript", I get w3schools.com/js !!! I know that Javascript is in constant evolution, but we need some kind of "headquarters to gather our troops", do PR and marketing. JS community cannot be a Peter Pan forever, one day we must grow up.
    - jsorg 12y ago
      ...thats exactly my thinking.
yunyeng 12y ago
Lets create an online Javascript bible, not the frameworks like angular, ember, backbone etc... But core javascript, objects, constructor functions, bitwise operators. Everything about Javascript language should be there.
- kayamon 12y ago
  Yep. If I wanted to know the latest JavaScript standards, or look up language details, I should be able to go to js.org to find it.
  - jsorg 12y ago
    +1
    - ltcstyle 12y ago
      Agree with this. Javascript is a programming language, the up-to-date standard would make sense for this domain.
- josemando 12y ago
  that's exactly what you can find at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
  - kipple 12y ago
    +1. There was that push for the Web Platform site[1], the fancy flashy unified source for web documentation, but I haven't gone back there since day 1... MDN has more content, more contributors, more love. [1] http://www.webplatform.org/ http://www.webplatform.org/
josemando 12y ago
You could focus on redirects, maybe some for npm modules, other for jquery plugins, etc Also you could link/redirect references, like the Mozilla one https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript (Mozilla rocks \o/)
kevinsimper 12y ago
Emails for open sources projects would be awesome!
matt_s 12y ago
There is site called Ruby Toolbox[1] and I find that helpful for doing the initial research for a library and if its active, useful to me, and how popular. An initial Google search indicates there is a site like this for JavaScript, but checking it show it is an internet lifetime ago (5-6 years). A fact based inventory of major JS libraries with downloads, bugs and updated_at stats would be helpful. The challenge would be keeping it fresh. If project "owners" can submit their own info that would help. [1] https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/ https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/
allendoerfer 12y ago
You could create an identity system, where users can create personal accounts and have projects, similar to github. Maybe you should simply use github, that way popular projects would keep their well known names. Do not hustle with email, install a system to handle MX records by the user, maybe with an interface that has some defaults (github, gmail). After that create an OAUTH provider. Now you can provide other services through partnerships. I would not give away the ability to define custom sub-subdomains, instead let them choose between different service providers for predefined subdomains like these: * forum.project.js.org * news.project.js.org * issues.project.js.org * mailinglist.project.js.org Create a skin-able overview of all the services at project.js.org. For the beginning you could simply pull in githubs README and add a navigation bar at the top. Later you could create something more dynamic. Host an aggregator for each service at: * js.org/forum * js.org/news * js.org/issues * js.org/mailinglist After you successfully created an enormous community and locked everybody in, turn evil, go into profit mode and add: * jobs.project.js.org * donate.project.js.org * sponsors.project.js.org
- jsorg 12y ago
  I like the evil part... No, to be serious I just wonder what could be useful. Github (for projekts) and MDN (for docu of core JS) are doing great. Thanks for your suggestion.

28 points by jsorg 12y ago

What do you think would be most useful for the JS-community? Free subdomains for open-source projects? A CDN ? Community tools like blogs, forums, chats? *@js.org email adresses for "everyone"?

striking 12y ago

Free subdomains and email would be really cool, actually. However, who is "Everyone"? Who gets a subdomain/email address?

jsorg 12y ago
thats the point. I think even with a good hosting plan i could handle subdomains only in the hundreds and email adresses in the thousands?!? But how to decide... Even with a focus on open source devs.
- Aeoxic 12y ago
  You could buy a VPS and set up the appropriate software (mailserver, web client, etc.) and offer free registration for that.

califield 12y ago

You could make it a redirect service for npm modules. e.g. https://js.org/express https://js.org/express 301 redirects to https://www.npmjs.com/package/express https://www.npmjs.com/package/express Another idea is a blog. One of my favorite blogs is http://npmawesome.com/ http://npmawesome.com/

jsorg 12y ago
Thats a bit nodejs focused, i think. Off-topic: The blog i like most is dailyjs...
- bennettp123 12y ago
  How about https://node.js.org/express https://node.js.org/express instead?
  - jsorg 12y ago
    much better i think.
  - galfarragem 12y ago
    So getting practical, the main strategy would be: - When a project reaches a popularity threshold (for example 10k github stars or gets to be the most popular project is his category - example: the most popular 3D library) would get a subdomain: https://jquery.js.org/eachplugin https://jquery.js.org/eachplugin https://node.js.org/express https://node.js.org/express When we get exceptions, in this case, express grew and got autonomous, https://node.js.org/express https://node.js.org/express would redirect to: https://express.js.org/ https://express.js.org/

thekillerdev 12y ago

subdomain + email is a good thing, setup a invite only "not so" closed beta staging, see if it works. Write a user agreement understanding that this is a test enviroment and making them aknowledge that all their data hosted on that email can be erased. So you are safe, and can see if it at least work it out.

galfarragem 12y ago

You could somehow use it to establish kind of an official page to JS-community. Right now js-community is divided, there is the angular community, the jquery community, the node community, the meteor community, etc, but a JS community that would aggregate all JS project communities is not organized yet. Without it JS will always look less popular than it really is.

mdaniel 12y ago
That aggregation you mention is traditionally called the "planet", and has a long history: http://planet.lisp.org/ http://planet.lisp.org/ http://planet.emacsen.org/ http://planet.emacsen.org/ http://www.planetnetbeans.org/ http://www.planetnetbeans.org/ http://planetopendata.herokuapp.com/opendatanews?style=hacker http://planetopendata.herokuapp.com/opendatanews?style=hacke... There are probably several packages which will ease the creation of such a thing, but this is the one I know of: http://www.planetplanet.org/ http://www.planetplanet.org/
- galfarragem 12y ago
  Ex. I make a search for "ruby", the first result I get is ruby-lang.org. For "python": python.org. For "clojure": clojure.org. For "PHP": php.net (...) For "javascript", I get w3schools.com/js !!! I know that Javascript is in constant evolution, but we need some kind of "headquarters to gather our troops", do PR and marketing. JS community cannot be a Peter Pan forever, one day we must grow up.
  - jsorg 12y ago
    ...thats exactly my thinking.

yunyeng 12y ago

Lets create an online Javascript bible, not the frameworks like angular, ember, backbone etc... But core javascript, objects, constructor functions, bitwise operators. Everything about Javascript language should be there.

kayamon 12y ago
Yep. If I wanted to know the latest JavaScript standards, or look up language details, I should be able to go to js.org to find it.
- jsorg 12y ago
  +1
  - ltcstyle 12y ago
    Agree with this. Javascript is a programming language, the up-to-date standard would make sense for this domain.
josemando 12y ago
that's exactly what you can find at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
- kipple 12y ago
  +1. There was that push for the Web Platform site[1], the fancy flashy unified source for web documentation, but I haven't gone back there since day 1... MDN has more content, more contributors, more love. [1] http://www.webplatform.org/ http://www.webplatform.org/

josemando 12y ago

You could focus on redirects, maybe some for npm modules, other for jquery plugins, etc Also you could link/redirect references, like the Mozilla one https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript (Mozilla rocks \o/)

kevinsimper 12y ago

Emails for open sources projects would be awesome!

matt_s 12y ago

There is site called Ruby Toolbox[1] and I find that helpful for doing the initial research for a library and if its active, useful to me, and how popular. An initial Google search indicates there is a site like this for JavaScript, but checking it show it is an internet lifetime ago (5-6 years). A fact based inventory of major JS libraries with downloads, bugs and updated_at stats would be helpful. The challenge would be keeping it fresh. If project "owners" can submit their own info that would help. [1] https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/ https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/

allendoerfer 12y ago

You could create an identity system, where users can create personal accounts and have projects, similar to github. Maybe you should simply use github, that way popular projects would keep their well known names. Do not hustle with email, install a system to handle MX records by the user, maybe with an interface that has some defaults (github, gmail). After that create an OAUTH provider. Now you can provide other services through partnerships. I would not give away the ability to define custom sub-subdomains, instead let them choose between different service providers for predefined subdomains like these: * forum.project.js.org * news.project.js.org * issues.project.js.org * mailinglist.project.js.org Create a skin-able overview of all the services at project.js.org. For the beginning you could simply pull in githubs README and add a navigation bar at the top. Later you could create something more dynamic. Host an aggregator for each service at: * js.org/forum * js.org/news * js.org/issues * js.org/mailinglist After you successfully created an enormous community and locked everybody in, turn evil, go into profit mode and add: * jobs.project.js.org * donate.project.js.org * sponsors.project.js.org

jsorg 12y ago
I like the evil part... No, to be serious I just wonder what could be useful. Github (for projekts) and MDN (for docu of core JS) are doing great. Thanks for your suggestion.