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In 2012, YC invested in a company InstallMonetizer[0] which, from my understanding, helps align software products with bundling other installers for additional
by route3 12y ago
In 2012, YC invested in a company InstallMonetizer[0] which, from my understanding, helps align software products with bundling other installers for additional revenue.
[0] http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/installmonetizer http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/installmonetizer
- jacquesm 12y agoThat's by far the worst company they ever invested in. See here for PG's take on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5092711 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5092711
- cdr 12y agoI dunno, there's a few contenders. Scribd was pretty bad. RapGenius was pretty bad in terms of the people. Edit: Oh, and Quora, even if that wasn't much more than YC lending its name.
- jacquesm 12y agoImpossible to have so many investments and not have a few bad apples. Still surprised PG did not distance himself further from installmonetizer, otoh props for standing by his investment and doing damage control for them at the expense of the YC cachet.
- cdr 12y agoPG defended scribd (much as InstallMonetizer), including automated scribed links on HN, even as it was hijacking people's content and widely loathed.
- unreal37 12y agoWhat was wrong with RapGenius? I actually like them. Simple idea executed well. I still use Genius regularly.
- anon1385 12y agoPeople disliked them because the founders acted like obnoxious fratbros, but the specific claims of wrongdoing were over blackhat SEO ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6956658 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6956658 ) which ended up getting them penalised by Google.
- cdr 12y agoThe other commenter covered the blackhat SEO / Google smackdown. As far as the people: http://valleywag.gawker.com/rap-genius-cofounder-resigns-over-comments-on-elliot-ro-1581741873 http://valleywag.gawker.com/rap-genius-cofounder-resigns-ove...
- GuiA 12y agoAnd Airbnb was spamming Craigslist posters (https://growthhackers.com/companies/airbnb/ https://growthhackers.com/companies/airbnb/ - but of course selling cereals is the anecdote preferred by storytellers), and I have freelancer friends who got totally screwed by YC companies ("We can't pay for your work right now but we'll hire you and give you tons of equity right after demo day!" ... only to never respond to their emails ever again. Yes, the few of my friends to whom this happened could have been less naive, but still shitty). The vast majority (but not all) of startups do dubious things. That's to be expected in an environment that glorifies "breaking things" and worrying later if what they're doing is legal or not. Being YC affiliated does not change that in the slightest bit.
- anon1385 12y agoWhich basically boiled down to him trying to argue that people must want malware because they clicked through a deviously worded dialog box. From building spam filters to funding a spam company. Building things people want? Ha! I guess it's worth noting other YC partners in that thread also defending malware, for example Garry Tan: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5093746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5093746 It seems like the culture of spam and malware is deeply embedded in YC these days.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 12y agoIt's just disrupting something or other.
- ultramancool 12y agoThere's a wide variety of these "Pay-Per-Install" (PPI) type services, all of which profit by installing some form of malware on your machine. Sketchier services pay more, but also install stealthily rather than asking. Any kind is a pretty disturbing way to profit from your users. They're the kind of things you see script kiddies deploy to a small botnet. Not something you expect from a legitimate company.