"The concern is, on the whole, those receiving & relying on a basic income find a right to the fruits of the labors of others, without any incentive toward thei

"The concern is, on the whole, those receiving & relying on a basic income find a right to the fruits of the labors of others, without any incentive toward their own productivity." Capitalist states were founded by theft and bloodshed, as if this is an argument. It's all trying to make people conform to some ideology when the words "incentive" and "prodictivity" and "other peoples labor" have no real definition, it's just vague mumbo jumbo. If you really meant that then that would mean many historical injustices would have to be undone (aka the capitalist states theft of property from the natives). Albert einstein: "The conquering peoples established themselves, legally and economically, as the privileged class of the conquered country. They seized for themselves a monopoly of the land ownership and appointed a priesthood from among their own ranks. The priests, in control of education, made the class division of society into a permanent institution and created a system of values by which the people were thenceforth, to a large extent unconsciously, guided in their social behavior. But historic tradition is, so to speak, of yesterday; nowhere have we really overcome what Thorstein Veblen called “the predatory phase” of human development. The observable economic facts belong to that phase and even such laws as we can derive from them are not applicable to other phases. Since the real purpose of socialism is precisely to overcome and advance beyond the predatory phase of human development, economic science in its present state can throw little light on the socialist society of the future." http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/ http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/