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Then, maybe the correct course of action for the EFF would be to work on improving the warrant system, rather than working on keeping alleged drug-dealing, unli

by millerc 12y ago

Then, maybe the correct course of action for the EFF would be to work on improving the warrant system, rather than working on keeping alleged drug-dealing, unlicensed gun owners, illegal immigrants out of legal trouble?

higherpurpose 12y ago
How would they "improve" the warrant system? The police went around the warrant to illegally spy on someone. The point of a warrant is to stop illegal spying, and make sure only people who deserve being spied upon are spied upon. If the police was sure he deserved it and had the evidence to prove it, they should've just gotten the warrant. If they weren't, then they were just fishing and waiting for someone co commit a crime. And that's not just immoral, but against the Constitution.
pygy_ 12y ago
> Then, maybe the correct course of action for the EFF would be to work on improving the warrant system, rather than working on keeping alleged drug-dealing, unlicensed gun owners, illegal immigrants out of legal trouble? That's what they are doing, this is how jurisprudence works. Hadn't they challenged the warantless spying, it would have made a precedent in court. The police could have relied on the acceptance of the evidence in this case to do it again, anywhere in the US.
ska 12y ago
Is anything wrong with the warrant system? The fact that police are often trying to avoid/circumvent it is not evidence that it isn't working as designed, just that it isn't working as they would like (which is to be expected).
forgottenpass 12y ago
Then, maybe the correct course of action for the EFF would be to work on improving the warrant system What good does a warrant system do if the government doesn't follow the law? Trials like this are how courts get the executive arms of the government to follow the law. You'll notice that the presiding judge actively solicited a brief from the EFF.

by millerc 12y ago

higherpurpose 12y ago

How would they "improve" the warrant system? The police went around the warrant to illegally spy on someone. The point of a warrant is to stop illegal spying, and make sure only people who deserve being spied upon are spied upon. If the police was sure he deserved it and had the evidence to prove it, they should've just gotten the warrant. If they weren't, then they were just fishing and waiting for someone co commit a crime. And that's not just immoral, but against the Constitution.

pygy_ 12y ago

> Then, maybe the correct course of action for the EFF would be to work on improving the warrant system, rather than working on keeping alleged drug-dealing, unlicensed gun owners, illegal immigrants out of legal trouble? That's what they are doing, this is how jurisprudence works. Hadn't they challenged the warantless spying, it would have made a precedent in court. The police could have relied on the acceptance of the evidence in this case to do it again, anywhere in the US.

ska 12y ago

Is anything wrong with the warrant system? The fact that police are often trying to avoid/circumvent it is not evidence that it isn't working as designed, just that it isn't working as they would like (which is to be expected).

forgottenpass 12y ago

Then, maybe the correct course of action for the EFF would be to work on improving the warrant system What good does a warrant system do if the government doesn't follow the law? Trials like this are how courts get the executive arms of the government to follow the law. You'll notice that the presiding judge actively solicited a brief from the EFF.