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For those interested, I believe §121.542(d) is the regulation they're referring to when they say the FAA has prohibited electronic devices. http://rgl.faa.gov/R

For those interested, I believe §121.542(d) is the regulation they're referring to when they say the FAA has prohibited electronic devices. http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/0/7027DA4135C34E2086257CBA004BF853?OpenDocument&Highlight=121.542 http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf... Part 121 of course only applies to airliners. For non-commercial flights, only §91.21 would apply, which is far less prohibitive. http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?node=14:2.0.1.3.10.1.4.11 http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?node=14:2.0.1.3.10.1.4....

aosmith 12y ago
Is there a clear violation for a co-pilot or navigator who isn't actively participating in flight duties? If you've ever sat second seat on approach there's not much to do after turning final.
- rurounijones 12y ago
  Well, that is a special case since the cockpit has to be sterile as pointed out in the article in which case NOTHING is allowed [EDIT (For clarify)] that is not to do with flight operations
  - aosmith 12y ago
    iPads and iPhones are specifically allowed by certain regs... "Nothing" is not the case here. http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/airline_operators/airline_safety/info/all_infos/media/2011/InFO11011.pdf http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/airline_ope...
    - rurounijones 12y ago
      I originally wrote "nothing that is not to do with flight operations" but shortened it thinking that was implied. i.e. A pilot that is not Pilot in Command in sterile cockpit cannot violate the sterility just because he doesn't have his hands on the controls.
      - aosmith 12y ago
        If the iPad / iPhone is already in the cockpit how is sterility broken? TY for working through this with me :). Edit: using an approved device in an unforseen way != using an unapproved device. Edit 2: This was reposted / moved to a proper reply.
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aosmith 12y ago

Is there a clear violation for a co-pilot or navigator who isn't actively participating in flight duties? If you've ever sat second seat on approach there's not much to do after turning final.

rurounijones 12y ago
Well, that is a special case since the cockpit has to be sterile as pointed out in the article in which case NOTHING is allowed [EDIT (For clarify)] that is not to do with flight operations
- aosmith 12y ago
  iPads and iPhones are specifically allowed by certain regs... "Nothing" is not the case here. http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/airline_operators/airline_safety/info/all_infos/media/2011/InFO11011.pdf http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/airline_ope...
  - rurounijones 12y ago
    I originally wrote "nothing that is not to do with flight operations" but shortened it thinking that was implied. i.e. A pilot that is not Pilot in Command in sterile cockpit cannot violate the sterility just because he doesn't have his hands on the controls.
    - aosmith 12y ago
      If the iPad / iPhone is already in the cockpit how is sterility broken? TY for working through this with me :). Edit: using an approved device in an unforseen way != using an unapproved device. Edit 2: This was reposted / moved to a proper reply.
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