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Offering incomplete software as open source doesn't make it any less incomplete. Are we giving out blue ribbons for participation now?

by 54mf 12y ago

tux1968 12y ago
So the alternative in your view is to not offer anything at all unless it's complete by some objective standard? Does that really sound preferable to you?
- ahomescu1 12y ago
  An alternative is to offer it, but mark it clearly as "incomplete" or "alpha" (which is what one of the original complaints was about). Versioning it would be even better (say, call this "emoji 0.1").
grey-area 12y ago
No-one asked for blue ribbons or sympathy. If someone whines about a perceived shortcoming in stuff which has been released incomplete, but free and modifiable, then they can expect short shrift.
- MCRed 12y ago
  They should expect that, but instead they are getting sympathy in this thread, quite ironically: https://harthur.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/771/ https://harthur.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/771/
aaronem 12y ago
It is perfectly complete and exactly what it claims to be. It's just not what whatsisname expected it to be. Are we expecting OSS developers to be mind readers now?
lazerwalker 12y ago
In this specific instance, calling the library "incomplete" is a less-than-completely-accurate characterization. What the issue creator wants is easily possible using the library, but cannot be included as default behavior because of licensing issues. This is hinted at, but perhaps not made as explicit as it could be, in the README.
omouse 12y ago
Apparently we give out blue ribbons and $$$$ to corporations who deliver incomplete software. So yeah, why the fuck not for open source? ;)
burke 12y ago
What the hell does "complete" even mean? No software is ever "complete". Literally every open source license says something along the lines of "there are probably bugs and stuff; it's not my problem". I really can't even comprehend this mindset of "unless it'll work for people without issues, don't put it on github".
- EdwardDiego 12y ago
  Also, since when was there a definitive list of "over-animated emoticons" that one had to fulfil?

Offering incomplete software as open source doesn't make it any less incomplete. Are we giving out blue ribbons for participation now?

by 54mf 12y ago

Offering incomplete software as open source doesn't make it any less incomplete. Are we giving out blue ribbons for participation now?

tux1968 12y ago

So the alternative in your view is to not offer anything at all unless it's complete by some objective standard? Does that really sound preferable to you?

ahomescu1 12y ago
An alternative is to offer it, but mark it clearly as "incomplete" or "alpha" (which is what one of the original complaints was about). Versioning it would be even better (say, call this "emoji 0.1").

grey-area 12y ago

No-one asked for blue ribbons or sympathy. If someone whines about a perceived shortcoming in stuff which has been released incomplete, but free and modifiable, then they can expect short shrift.

MCRed 12y ago
They should expect that, but instead they are getting sympathy in this thread, quite ironically: https://harthur.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/771/ https://harthur.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/771/

aaronem 12y ago

It is perfectly complete and exactly what it claims to be. It's just not what whatsisname expected it to be. Are we expecting OSS developers to be mind readers now?

lazerwalker 12y ago

In this specific instance, calling the library "incomplete" is a less-than-completely-accurate characterization. What the issue creator wants is easily possible using the library, but cannot be included as default behavior because of licensing issues. This is hinted at, but perhaps not made as explicit as it could be, in the README.

omouse 12y ago

Apparently we give out blue ribbons and $$$$ to corporations who deliver incomplete software. So yeah, why the fuck not for open source? ;)

burke 12y ago

What the hell does "complete" even mean? No software is ever "complete". Literally every open source license says something along the lines of "there are probably bugs and stuff; it's not my problem". I really can't even comprehend this mindset of "unless it'll work for people without issues, don't put it on github".

EdwardDiego 12y ago
Also, since when was there a definitive list of "over-animated emoticons" that one had to fulfil?