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Todo list: 1- Invent powerful machines for simulations and calculations(ok) 2- Stop with childish religious beliefs altogether (in progress - 5ys) 3- Review com

by devgutt 12y ago

Todo list: 1- Invent powerful machines for simulations and calculations(ok) 2- Stop with childish religious beliefs altogether (in progress - 5ys) 3- Review completely the social contract (in progress - 50ys) 4- Fix mortality (urgent - 100ys) 5- Explore the universe (2114)

disputin 12y ago
5 years? How do you figure that?
- devgutt 12y ago
  I think that we already have all the elements to make this leap. I am not being naive, only optimistic.
  - disputin 12y ago
    I'll be one of the first to cheer, but even with the pope and co changing their minds about what god likes and doesn't like every other year, there are billions more.
twtwtaway 12y ago
too bad we are not going to be around when mortality will be fixed. out of luck, i guess.
- devgutt 12y ago
  Actually, for Aubrey de Grey, that will be 50 years[1], but I think this is only to get more funds. [1] http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_ag...
ff10 12y ago
There is no single social contract, but if there is, it very well has to be reviewed before we "fix" mortality. And who says that the further exploration of the universe (which is happening since a few thousand years anyway) is tempting to a critical mass with an unlimited lifespan where distractions are manifold and any simulation more convenient and less dangerous than the exploration of the universe in person.
- devgutt 12y ago
  > There is no single social contract, but if there is, it very well has to be reviewed before we "fix" mortality. Just like I said. >any simulation more convenient and less dangerous than the exploration of the universe in person We have been risking our lifes to explorer our world for millenniums. Why would it be different for space?
  - ff10 12y ago
    Because we have unlimited time and unlimited things to consume on earth. Who'd give a shit about what's behind the horizon? I'm just saying the audacity to suggest to "fix" mortality is stunning. The implications are unforeseeable, on so many levels. People might not be as idealistic as you make them out to be.
    - devgutt 12y ago
      > People might not be as idealistic as you make them out to be. Well, not everyone needs to be "idealistic". There are a lot of people willing to risk their lifes just to see a little further behind the horizon. You are not one of them. And this is ok.

by devgutt 12y ago

disputin 12y ago

5 years? How do you figure that?

devgutt 12y ago
I think that we already have all the elements to make this leap. I am not being naive, only optimistic.
- disputin 12y ago
  I'll be one of the first to cheer, but even with the pope and co changing their minds about what god likes and doesn't like every other year, there are billions more.

twtwtaway 12y ago

too bad we are not going to be around when mortality will be fixed. out of luck, i guess.

devgutt 12y ago
Actually, for Aubrey de Grey, that will be 50 years[1], but I think this is only to get more funds. [1] http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_ag...

ff10 12y ago

There is no single social contract, but if there is, it very well has to be reviewed before we "fix" mortality. And who says that the further exploration of the universe (which is happening since a few thousand years anyway) is tempting to a critical mass with an unlimited lifespan where distractions are manifold and any simulation more convenient and less dangerous than the exploration of the universe in person.

devgutt 12y ago
> There is no single social contract, but if there is, it very well has to be reviewed before we "fix" mortality. Just like I said. >any simulation more convenient and less dangerous than the exploration of the universe in person We have been risking our lifes to explorer our world for millenniums. Why would it be different for space?
- ff10 12y ago
  Because we have unlimited time and unlimited things to consume on earth. Who'd give a shit about what's behind the horizon? I'm just saying the audacity to suggest to "fix" mortality is stunning. The implications are unforeseeable, on so many levels. People might not be as idealistic as you make them out to be.
  - devgutt 12y ago
    > People might not be as idealistic as you make them out to be. Well, not everyone needs to be "idealistic". There are a lot of people willing to risk their lifes just to see a little further behind the horizon. You are not one of them. And this is ok.