> Application servers are very important, perhaps too important to be tied to a commercial entity. I think exactly the opposite. I think apps servers are too

> Application servers are very important, perhaps too important to be tied to a commercial entity. I think exactly the opposite. I think apps servers are too important to be left without financial support. Remember when Zed Shaw abandoned his great work on mongrel? I don't think he'd do the same if he had thousands of paying users, and maybe we'd still use (maintained and improved) mongrel today.