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I didn't mean to imply Go invented automatic formatting :) It's unique among the popular language that I know in that the formatter is built into the standard t

by _bpo 12y ago

I didn't mean to imply Go invented automatic formatting :) It's unique among the popular language that I know in that the formatter is built into the standard toolkit. It also goes well beyond indentation. I've never seen a discussion of the format of go code outside the discussion of how `go fmt` should work - this I consider a benefit.

desdiv 12y ago
indent goes well beyond indentations too, despite the name :)
- _bpo 12y ago
  You're certainly correct, but if you compare this: http://linux.die.net/man/1/indent with this: https://golang.org/cmd/gofmt/ even just by line count, you'll see the difference in philosophy.
  - waps 12y ago
    Unfortunately having a code formatter does not make up for basic deficiencies in the language itself when it comes to datatypes. Basic example : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19946992/sorting-a-map-of-structs-golang http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19946992/sorting-a-map-of... (shortest way to sort an array of a custom datatype in go is around 50 lines of code, and requires you to write a custom sorting class)
    - Injunire 12y ago
      First example on that page shows a straightforward solution in under 10 lines of code. Convert the map values to a slice and then use the stdlib package sort to organize the data.
      - waps 12y ago
        You left out defining a sorting class, like in Turbo Pascal. So, it's 17 lines of code (wrong version provided on stackoverflow) or 21 lines, the correct version : type dataSlice []*data // Len is part of sort.Interface. func (d dataSlice) Len() int { return len(d) } // Swap is part of sort.Interface. func (d dataSlice) Swap(i, j int) { d[i], d[j] = d[j], d[i] } // Less is part of sort.Interface. We use count as the value to sort by func (d dataSlice) Less(i, j int) bool { // WRONG : will crash if there's a nil in the list ... return d[i].count < d[j].count // Correct version if d[i] == nil { return true // note : true is an exported name, with no capital ... yet another inconsistency } if d[j] == nil { return false } return d[i].count < d[j].count } func main() { // create s of type []*data sort.Sort(s) } Python version: // create list of data in variable s s.sort(key=lambda x: x.count) C++ version: // Create Vector<Data> in s sort(s.begin(), s.end(), [](const Data& d1, const Data& d2) { return d1.count < d2.count; }); (bonus for the C++ version : it's behavior is defined and correct for nulls, just saying this because none of the other examples are, including the Go one) Java version: // Create List<Data> in s Collections.sort(s, (Data d1, Data d2) -> Integer.compare(d1.count, d2.count)); Let's put it this way. If Java is 16 TIMES more concise than your language, you have a problem. A big problem.
nostrademons 12y ago
If you consider C++'s standard toolkit to be Clang, Clang comes with clang-format.

by _bpo 12y ago

desdiv 12y ago

indent goes well beyond indentations too, despite the name :)

_bpo 12y ago
You're certainly correct, but if you compare this: http://linux.die.net/man/1/indent with this: https://golang.org/cmd/gofmt/ even just by line count, you'll see the difference in philosophy.
- waps 12y ago
  Unfortunately having a code formatter does not make up for basic deficiencies in the language itself when it comes to datatypes. Basic example : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19946992/sorting-a-map-of-structs-golang http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19946992/sorting-a-map-of... (shortest way to sort an array of a custom datatype in go is around 50 lines of code, and requires you to write a custom sorting class)
  - Injunire 12y ago
    First example on that page shows a straightforward solution in under 10 lines of code. Convert the map values to a slice and then use the stdlib package sort to organize the data.
    - waps 12y ago
      You left out defining a sorting class, like in Turbo Pascal. So, it's 17 lines of code (wrong version provided on stackoverflow) or 21 lines, the correct version : type dataSlice []*data // Len is part of sort.Interface. func (d dataSlice) Len() int { return len(d) } // Swap is part of sort.Interface. func (d dataSlice) Swap(i, j int) { d[i], d[j] = d[j], d[i] } // Less is part of sort.Interface. We use count as the value to sort by func (d dataSlice) Less(i, j int) bool { // WRONG : will crash if there's a nil in the list ... return d[i].count < d[j].count // Correct version if d[i] == nil { return true // note : true is an exported name, with no capital ... yet another inconsistency } if d[j] == nil { return false } return d[i].count < d[j].count } func main() { // create s of type []*data sort.Sort(s) } Python version: // create list of data in variable s s.sort(key=lambda x: x.count) C++ version: // Create Vector<Data> in s sort(s.begin(), s.end(), [](const Data& d1, const Data& d2) { return d1.count < d2.count; }); (bonus for the C++ version : it's behavior is defined and correct for nulls, just saying this because none of the other examples are, including the Go one) Java version: // Create List<Data> in s Collections.sort(s, (Data d1, Data d2) -> Integer.compare(d1.count, d2.count)); Let's put it this way. If Java is 16 TIMES more concise than your language, you have a problem. A big problem.

nostrademons 12y ago

If you consider C++'s standard toolkit to be Clang, Clang comes with clang-format.