Well, and there you have exactly why this topic is so toxic. Everyone is so convinced they're right that they're more interested in digging in and painting cari

Well, and there you have exactly why this topic is so toxic. Everyone is so convinced they're right that they're more interested in digging in and painting caricatures of each other than actually having a discussion. At this point, there's no way for anything constructive to happen with the valid concerns either side of this has because all the focus is on the worst elements of all involved.