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Yes, DE-CIX is the second largest IXP, and it's an obvious SECOND choice. What's not obvious is why Ireland was Amazon's first choice and not Amsterdam which i

by notax 12y ago

Yes, DE-CIX is the second largest IXP, and it's an obvious SECOND choice. What's not obvious is why Ireland was Amazon's first choice and not Amsterdam which is the premier location with AMS-IX. In other words I was referring to Amazon's odd first choice in my first message. Sorry if that was unclear. Logical locations for first batch of EU DCs: Amsterdam, Frankfurt. Odd locations: Dublin, Frankfurt. Even starting with London and LINX would have made far more sense than Dublin. Choosing Dublin as your first DC, is like putting your first US DC in some place like North Dakota.

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jgreen10 12y ago
Nowadays DE-CIX is slightly bigger than AMS-IX.
- erik_sub 12y ago
  They are fairly equal. According to self-published statistics AMS-IX is nominally bigger in peak traffic and number of members. Sources: https://ams-ix.net/ https://ams-ix.net/ https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/ https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/
- notax 12y ago
  erik_sub, also this comment was invisible due to hellbanning. erik_sub 19 hours ago | link [dead] They are fairly equal. According to self-published statistics AMS-IX is nominally bigger in peak traffic and number of members. Sources: https://ams-ix.net/ https://ams-ix.net/ https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/ https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/
donavanm 12y ago
It depends on who youre serving. Ams is nice for western eu traffic. Fra is certainly well connected to the continent also. Additionally fra has much better connectivity to the periphery of europe, including mid east and north africa. Additionally dub already covers the uk, where ams would cut 10ms from your fra times. So if youve already got dub and you want to cover more of the map fra makes a lot of sense.
- notax 12y ago
  > So if youve already got dub and you want to cover more of the map fra makes a lot of sense. Aye and there-in lies the rub. Frankfurt is a fine second choice and even an excellent first choice. But of all the excellent choices available, why does dubious Dublin have the honor of first choice in AWS EU locations? It just does not make any sense. Not only it is bad for Amazon, it's very detrimential to AWS users. Given a choice between Dublin and any other major IX location in Europe, I doubt anybody would have chosen Dublin. AWS users just put up with it since they had no choice.

by notax 12y ago

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jgreen10 12y ago

Nowadays DE-CIX is slightly bigger than AMS-IX.

erik_sub 12y ago
They are fairly equal. According to self-published statistics AMS-IX is nominally bigger in peak traffic and number of members. Sources: https://ams-ix.net/ https://ams-ix.net/ https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/ https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/
notax 12y ago
erik_sub, also this comment was invisible due to hellbanning. erik_sub 19 hours ago | link [dead] They are fairly equal. According to self-published statistics AMS-IX is nominally bigger in peak traffic and number of members. Sources: https://ams-ix.net/ https://ams-ix.net/ https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/ https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/

donavanm 12y ago

It depends on who youre serving. Ams is nice for western eu traffic. Fra is certainly well connected to the continent also. Additionally fra has much better connectivity to the periphery of europe, including mid east and north africa. Additionally dub already covers the uk, where ams would cut 10ms from your fra times. So if youve already got dub and you want to cover more of the map fra makes a lot of sense.

notax 12y ago
> So if youve already got dub and you want to cover more of the map fra makes a lot of sense. Aye and there-in lies the rub. Frankfurt is a fine second choice and even an excellent first choice. But of all the excellent choices available, why does dubious Dublin have the honor of first choice in AWS EU locations? It just does not make any sense. Not only it is bad for Amazon, it's very detrimential to AWS users. Given a choice between Dublin and any other major IX location in Europe, I doubt anybody would have chosen Dublin. AWS users just put up with it since they had no choice.