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I've worked in many shops that use kdb+ and the ones who really benefit are the ones who bothered to get some training on it rather than those who just assume t

by qfan 12y ago

I've worked in many shops that use kdb+ and the ones who really benefit are the ones who bothered to get some training on it rather than those who just assume they'll wing it somehow. Kx themselves have been running great intro workshops for a couple of years now. Some guys at the next desk attended one and came back buzzing with excitement at how they now saw through the noise. So the take away is - if you didn't bother to learn it, stop complaining that you don't understand it. It's not difficult to get when it is explained well, but you're not gonna get it just by staring at it.

sohagan857 12y ago
Qfan. Very good comment....I would advise all to read this comment and then follow this link... http://www.firstderivatives.com/kx_training_new.asp http://www.firstderivatives.com/kx_training_new.asp
- Torn 12y ago
  Your account was created one day ago, and qfan's 1 hour ago. Your comment chain is at the top of article linking to a $1800 training course on kdb+, run by the owners of the language. The article was a good read, if dramatic, but this smells like astroturfing to me.
  - cbsmith 12y ago
    The kdb+ folks have no need to astroturf, and if they did it wouldn't get them anywhere.
  - ansible 12y ago
    The firm eventually phased out kdb+ completely after my boss and I left (the two proponents of kdb+). That doesn't sound like a great way to end an astroturf post.
kiyoto 12y ago
>I've worked in many shops that use kdb+ and the ones who really benefit are the ones who bothered to get some training on it rather than those who just assume they'll wing it somehow. Yea, I know all about the training and First Derivative. My employer also hired them. In their defense, every First Derivative KDB+ consultant that I worked with was very sharp and an excellent teacher. They really knew their stuff, and First Derivative is no small part of what has made KDB+ so successful. However, even with their excellent pedagogy, most of my co-workers were totally lost/weren't willing to apply themselves to learn q/kdb+ well. Here is another way to think about it: many people can't ever get their heads around certain conceptually difficult topics, say, measure theory or quantum physics. I don't think kdb+ is nearly as hard, but it seemed that way looking at my peers who were no slowpokes.
yawaramin 12y ago
I initially read that as: > ... came back buzzing with excrement

by qfan 12y ago

sohagan857 12y ago

Qfan. Very good comment....I would advise all to read this comment and then follow this link... http://www.firstderivatives.com/kx_training_new.asp http://www.firstderivatives.com/kx_training_new.asp

Torn 12y ago
Your account was created one day ago, and qfan's 1 hour ago. Your comment chain is at the top of article linking to a $1800 training course on kdb+, run by the owners of the language. The article was a good read, if dramatic, but this smells like astroturfing to me.
- cbsmith 12y ago
  The kdb+ folks have no need to astroturf, and if they did it wouldn't get them anywhere.
- ansible 12y ago
  The firm eventually phased out kdb+ completely after my boss and I left (the two proponents of kdb+). That doesn't sound like a great way to end an astroturf post.

kiyoto 12y ago

>I've worked in many shops that use kdb+ and the ones who really benefit are the ones who bothered to get some training on it rather than those who just assume they'll wing it somehow. Yea, I know all about the training and First Derivative. My employer also hired them. In their defense, every First Derivative KDB+ consultant that I worked with was very sharp and an excellent teacher. They really knew their stuff, and First Derivative is no small part of what has made KDB+ so successful. However, even with their excellent pedagogy, most of my co-workers were totally lost/weren't willing to apply themselves to learn q/kdb+ well. Here is another way to think about it: many people can't ever get their heads around certain conceptually difficult topics, say, measure theory or quantum physics. I don't think kdb+ is nearly as hard, but it seemed that way looking at my peers who were no slowpokes.

yawaramin 12y ago

I initially read that as: > ... came back buzzing with excrement