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whats your current deployment strategy, series of powershell scripts or something chef/puppet based? We had a powershell based setup and my previous shop but h

whats your current deployment strategy, series of powershell scripts or something chef/puppet based? We had a powershell based setup and my previous shop but hardest part was maintaing and deploying different databases to make the tests relevant. How do you think docker containers helps (as Im not sure it would have helped in my previous situation - too many other base issues to deal with first)

amarraja 12y ago
Git -> Teamcity -> Octopus -> Server. We also use database migrations to keep everything updated. It's a simple process but works well. Code and deployment is all fine, it's maintainaing server configurations across environments (IIS, permissions, ports, ips, firewalls to name a few, a different issue every time and on every env!). Likely this is more to do with having completely seperated operations and development, however bring able to control the apps environment will allow us to deliver more, faster.
- heymishy 12y ago
  ah nice, we looked into octopus at the time but was still early development days and was too much of a risk, otherwise pretty much the same stack. I can see what you mean re server config, would be a lot easier with docker than what i was hacking about with vagrant. thanks for the info!
  - amarraja 12y ago
    We are running a fairly old version (two years old, haven't upgraded yet) and I would wholeheartedly recommend it!
- deadweight3 12y ago
  Does anyone know of a reasonable deployment management solution in open source for .Net? Octopus is perfect, but with my limited budget of $0, it's a tad costly.
  - smurfpandey 12y ago
    You can try Web Deploy http://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/web-deploy http://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/web-deploy
    - MadhanA 12y ago
      Hey, this is Madhan from Azure team. Great to see this conversation about Octopus. Stay tuned for news about Octopus and Azure.
  - mythz 12y ago
    You can use WebDeploy, here's a walkthrough for publishing ASP.NET Web Applications to AWS with WebDeploy which can also be automated with a Grunt task: https://github.com/ServiceStack/ServiceStack/wiki/Simple-Deployments-to-AWS-with-WebDeploy https://github.com/ServiceStack/ServiceStack/wiki/Simple-Dep...
  - SEJeff 12y ago
    It is a linux tool primarily, but I'm one of the comaintainers of the saltstack salt config management tool. It supports windows pretty well and we have plenty of users who use it on windows for their enterprise server deployments. It can be used to replace deployment tools like capistrano and fabric on Linux. No reason it can't do the same on Windows if you grok it enough to use it. http://www.saltstack.com/community/ http://www.saltstack.com/community/
  - berdario 12y ago
    Ansible recently started to support Windows: http://docs.ansible.com/intro_windows.html http://docs.ansible.com/intro_windows.html I haven't used it yet on Windows, but it's good enough on unixes... And it's quite lightweight and easy to setup (it relies on python2 on *nix and powershell on windows)
  - myefforts 12y ago
    Octopus has a Community Edition which costs $0. Limited to 5 projects to up to 10 Tentacles and to 5 users
  - deleted 12y ago
- serve_yay 12y ago
  Octopus is excellent, probably my favorite part of when I previously worked in a .NET shop.
- wluu 12y ago
  If I understand correctly, I think Powershell DSC (Desired State Configuration) might be able to do what you need with regards to windows server config. See: - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn249918.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn249918.aspx - http://powershell.org/wp/2013/10/02/building-a-desired-state-configuration-infrastructure/ http://powershell.org/wp/2013/10/02/building-a-desired-state...
  - amarraja 12y ago
    Looks interesting, but our problem is more a separation of operation and development teams. It's not ideal, but we're a dev house and clients like to keep their operations in house for a number of reason (PCI compliance is one of them). From my point of view OS configuration for app level concerns (web servers, services etc), should sit in the development realm, ready for operational teams to distribute and monitor. Scripting systems does help, but it is not the final solution when you have mixed, varying talent teams. As a side note, every time I have tried scripting Windows systems I get an extra gray hair!

amarraja 12y ago

Git -> Teamcity -> Octopus -> Server. We also use database migrations to keep everything updated. It's a simple process but works well. Code and deployment is all fine, it's maintainaing server configurations across environments (IIS, permissions, ports, ips, firewalls to name a few, a different issue every time and on every env!). Likely this is more to do with having completely seperated operations and development, however bring able to control the apps environment will allow us to deliver more, faster.

heymishy 12y ago
ah nice, we looked into octopus at the time but was still early development days and was too much of a risk, otherwise pretty much the same stack. I can see what you mean re server config, would be a lot easier with docker than what i was hacking about with vagrant. thanks for the info!
- amarraja 12y ago
  We are running a fairly old version (two years old, haven't upgraded yet) and I would wholeheartedly recommend it!
deadweight3 12y ago
Does anyone know of a reasonable deployment management solution in open source for .Net? Octopus is perfect, but with my limited budget of $0, it's a tad costly.
- smurfpandey 12y ago
  You can try Web Deploy http://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/web-deploy http://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/web-deploy
  - MadhanA 12y ago
    Hey, this is Madhan from Azure team. Great to see this conversation about Octopus. Stay tuned for news about Octopus and Azure.
- mythz 12y ago
  You can use WebDeploy, here's a walkthrough for publishing ASP.NET Web Applications to AWS with WebDeploy which can also be automated with a Grunt task: https://github.com/ServiceStack/ServiceStack/wiki/Simple-Deployments-to-AWS-with-WebDeploy https://github.com/ServiceStack/ServiceStack/wiki/Simple-Dep...
- SEJeff 12y ago
  It is a linux tool primarily, but I'm one of the comaintainers of the saltstack salt config management tool. It supports windows pretty well and we have plenty of users who use it on windows for their enterprise server deployments. It can be used to replace deployment tools like capistrano and fabric on Linux. No reason it can't do the same on Windows if you grok it enough to use it. http://www.saltstack.com/community/ http://www.saltstack.com/community/
- berdario 12y ago
  Ansible recently started to support Windows: http://docs.ansible.com/intro_windows.html http://docs.ansible.com/intro_windows.html I haven't used it yet on Windows, but it's good enough on unixes... And it's quite lightweight and easy to setup (it relies on python2 on *nix and powershell on windows)
- myefforts 12y ago
  Octopus has a Community Edition which costs $0. Limited to 5 projects to up to 10 Tentacles and to 5 users
- deleted 12y ago
serve_yay 12y ago
Octopus is excellent, probably my favorite part of when I previously worked in a .NET shop.
wluu 12y ago
If I understand correctly, I think Powershell DSC (Desired State Configuration) might be able to do what you need with regards to windows server config. See: - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn249918.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn249918.aspx - http://powershell.org/wp/2013/10/02/building-a-desired-state-configuration-infrastructure/ http://powershell.org/wp/2013/10/02/building-a-desired-state...
- amarraja 12y ago
  Looks interesting, but our problem is more a separation of operation and development teams. It's not ideal, but we're a dev house and clients like to keep their operations in house for a number of reason (PCI compliance is one of them). From my point of view OS configuration for app level concerns (web servers, services etc), should sit in the development realm, ready for operational teams to distribute and monitor. Scripting systems does help, but it is not the final solution when you have mixed, varying talent teams. As a side note, every time I have tried scripting Windows systems I get an extra gray hair!