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So I guess the KKK isn't racist. Interesting... > "We're not racists," Chambers told CNN Monday. "We just want to be with white people. If that's a crime, then

by burgers 12y ago

So I guess the KKK isn't racist. Interesting... > "We're not racists," Chambers told CNN Monday. "We just want to be with white people. If that's a crime, then I don't know. It's all right to be black and Latino and proud, but you can't be white and proud. I don't understand it." http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/12/a-kinder-gentler-ku-klux-klan-we-do-not-hate-anyone-imperial-wizard-says/ http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/12/a-kinder-gentler-k...

mpweiher 12y ago
That statement is not racist. I doubt that statement is the full extent of the KKKs racism...
- burgers 12y ago
  > We just want to be with white people. I don't know. If someone told me "I just want to be with white people", I would think they were racist. That said, the word racism definitely has multiple and nuanced meanings at this point, so it could be more a part of my interpretation than the more established official definition.
  - jacquesm 12y ago
    Most racists are xenophobes, but not all xenophobes are automatically racists.
kachnuv_ocasek 12y ago
Of course, there's nothing racist in that statement. Their actions don't seem to be in accord with their words, though.
- Cthulhu_ 12y ago
  Indeed. I think you can safely label a person or an organization if their actions are predominantly racist (like, oh, public lynching of minorities).
  - gd1 12y ago
    Oh really? To play devil's advocate for a moment, why don't you extend the same courtesy to them that the left do to Islam? I'm sure those lynchers were just a few bad apples, a few extremists, and you can't judge the whole organization for their actions. Right? Or maybe not.
    - codesuela 12y ago
      Yes if the percentage of extremists relative to the size of the whole organisation is minuscule (there are 1.7 BILLION muslims). Not to mention the muslim community (if there is such a thing) is much more diverse then the KKK. This is like saying that because there is a KKK that all white people are racist.

by burgers 12y ago

mpweiher 12y ago

That statement is not racist. I doubt that statement is the full extent of the KKKs racism...

burgers 12y ago
> We just want to be with white people. I don't know. If someone told me "I just want to be with white people", I would think they were racist. That said, the word racism definitely has multiple and nuanced meanings at this point, so it could be more a part of my interpretation than the more established official definition.
- jacquesm 12y ago
  Most racists are xenophobes, but not all xenophobes are automatically racists.

kachnuv_ocasek 12y ago

Of course, there's nothing racist in that statement. Their actions don't seem to be in accord with their words, though.

Cthulhu_ 12y ago
Indeed. I think you can safely label a person or an organization if their actions are predominantly racist (like, oh, public lynching of minorities).
- gd1 12y ago
  Oh really? To play devil's advocate for a moment, why don't you extend the same courtesy to them that the left do to Islam? I'm sure those lynchers were just a few bad apples, a few extremists, and you can't judge the whole organization for their actions. Right? Or maybe not.
  - codesuela 12y ago
    Yes if the percentage of extremists relative to the size of the whole organisation is minuscule (there are 1.7 BILLION muslims). Not to mention the muslim community (if there is such a thing) is much more diverse then the KKK. This is like saying that because there is a KKK that all white people are racist.