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The reality is that customers just don't want to use Firefox OS. Even with Amazon's support, it would still be very inferior in many ways to Android and iOS, an

by Pacabel 12y ago

The reality is that customers just don't want to use Firefox OS. Even with Amazon's support, it would still be very inferior in many ways to Android and iOS, and even to some of the other less-popular mobile OSes that are already out there. Given that Firefox OS apps written in HTML5, CSS and JavaScript should run just as well on Android and iOS, anyone actually wanting to use such apps is better off just getting an Android or an iOS device. That way they can run the Firefox OS apps, as well as all of the other apps that Android or iOS support.

fabrice_d 12y ago
The reality is that for some reason you're a Firefox OS hater. I don't think anyone forces you to use it you know... But more people chose Firefox OS than Amazon so far.
- Aloha 12y ago
  More people bought 1958 Edsels than 1958 Volkswagen Beetles too, that doesn't make the Edsel a better car than the Beetle. Popularity is not the same thing as value.
- Pacabel 12y ago
  Emotion is totally irrelevant here. I don't "hate" Firefox OS, nor do I "like" Firefox OS. It's just a tool, so I give it an objective, unemotional analysis. That analysis shows that it lacks the features and functionality that are needed for it to be a useful tool for the vast, vast majority of users. Most people use a phone for practical reasons, not ideological ones. They don't care how "open" it may be if it doesn't run the apps they need or want to use. Firefox OS will have no chance of succeeding in the long run as long as it continues to provide a sub-par user experience.
- deleted 12y ago
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bachmeier 12y ago
> The reality is that customers just don't want to use Firefox OS. Is a Firefox OS device on sale in any US retail store? I've never even talked with another person that had heard of Firefox OS. How could you possibly know that customers don't want it?
- aaronbrethorst 12y ago
  I've never even talked with another person that had heard of Firefox OS. How could you possibly know that customers don't want it? I could pick anyone who didn't have the slightest clue what FLOSS means, besides something they should do at least once a day, and ask them about a FFOS phone. Here's how that conversation would go down: Me: Hey, did you know you can get a smartphone for $33? Them: Cool! That sounds great, and $66 cheaper than my iPhone. Me: Yeah, that would totally pay for 3 weeks of your cell phone bill. Them: Sounds good, so I can get Instagram on it, right? Me: Yep, except you won't be able to post photos. Them: Oh. How about Flappy Bird. Me: Nope, sorry. Them: Darn, but that's ok. Too addictive. How about Uber, Whatsapp, and Facebook? Me: Totally! Mobile web all the way, baby! HTML 5! Them: Awesome! <2 Weeks Pass> Them: I went back to my iPhone. Those mobile websites suck.
  - DanBC 12y ago
    You might want to explain the true cost of an iPhone to them.
    - aaronbrethorst 12y ago
      T-Mobile's doing a great job of that. Or are you talking about "Ring 0 freedoms"?
      - DanBC 12y ago
        Suggesting that an iPhone costs $99 when it costs $99 plus monthly contract makes the comparison less than useful.
  - bachmeier 12y ago

by Pacabel 12y ago

fabrice_d 12y ago

The reality is that for some reason you're a Firefox OS hater. I don't think anyone forces you to use it you know... But more people chose Firefox OS than Amazon so far.

Aloha 12y ago
More people bought 1958 Edsels than 1958 Volkswagen Beetles too, that doesn't make the Edsel a better car than the Beetle. Popularity is not the same thing as value.
Pacabel 12y ago
Emotion is totally irrelevant here. I don't "hate" Firefox OS, nor do I "like" Firefox OS. It's just a tool, so I give it an objective, unemotional analysis. That analysis shows that it lacks the features and functionality that are needed for it to be a useful tool for the vast, vast majority of users. Most people use a phone for practical reasons, not ideological ones. They don't care how "open" it may be if it doesn't run the apps they need or want to use. Firefox OS will have no chance of succeeding in the long run as long as it continues to provide a sub-par user experience.
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bachmeier 12y ago

> The reality is that customers just don't want to use Firefox OS. Is a Firefox OS device on sale in any US retail store? I've never even talked with another person that had heard of Firefox OS. How could you possibly know that customers don't want it?

aaronbrethorst 12y ago
I've never even talked with another person that had heard of Firefox OS. How could you possibly know that customers don't want it? I could pick anyone who didn't have the slightest clue what FLOSS means, besides something they should do at least once a day, and ask them about a FFOS phone. Here's how that conversation would go down: Me: Hey, did you know you can get a smartphone for $33? Them: Cool! That sounds great, and $66 cheaper than my iPhone. Me: Yeah, that would totally pay for 3 weeks of your cell phone bill. Them: Sounds good, so I can get Instagram on it, right? Me: Yep, except you won't be able to post photos. Them: Oh. How about Flappy Bird. Me: Nope, sorry. Them: Darn, but that's ok. Too addictive. How about Uber, Whatsapp, and Facebook? Me: Totally! Mobile web all the way, baby! HTML 5! Them: Awesome! <2 Weeks Pass> Them: I went back to my iPhone. Those mobile websites suck.
- DanBC 12y ago
  You might want to explain the true cost of an iPhone to them.
  - aaronbrethorst 12y ago
    T-Mobile's doing a great job of that. Or are you talking about "Ring 0 freedoms"?
    - DanBC 12y ago
      Suggesting that an iPhone costs $99 when it costs $99 plus monthly contract makes the comparison less than useful.
- bachmeier 12y ago