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Do you or anyone else have any further sources studying this split between "fast thinkers" and "deep thinkers"? I would be very interested in a way to find peo

by toehead2000 12y ago

Do you or anyone else have any further sources studying this split between "fast thinkers" and "deep thinkers"? I would be very interested in a way to find people who were "deep;" it seems like most of the technical interviewing techniques screen more for "fast" people.

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mahyarm 12y ago
I think a better distinction are qualities of intelligence. For example a meticulous person will do well in a hard pattern matching puzzle, but ask them to do symbol substitution and they will be relatively slow and get a low score.
- mrexroad 12y ago
  interesting. the "fast vs deep" comment intrigued me; i find i can go exceedingly deep when i can let things "simmer." to your comment, i had an intelligence test administered as a teen and the two outliers were basically symbol substation (< avg) and pattern matching (high).
  - mahyarm 12y ago
    It's a common pattern with engineering types. In programming you have to be highly detailed and accurate because computer languages are not forgiving, and you have to notice tricky patterns to fix bugs. It's called being meticulous officially I think. This is why you need someone trained to interpret your IQ test, you cant just feed them into a scantron. There is a skill component to those things although. You could practice them a bit and improve your scores significantly. But is that really intelligence or just skill? It will always be a combination.
tsunamifury 12y ago
An entire book was written about it recently called Thinking Fast, and Slow. It is a detailed 900 page exploration if a lifetime of research from the famous behavioral economist Daniel Kahneman on the topic
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ewindisch 12y ago
You might wish to look at fewer applicants sporting advanced degrees and specifically hire roles that deep thinkers would naturally gravitate toward, degree or not. As elsewhere mentioned, our educational system often ties success to fast thinking. I've always known I am not a fast thinker and, in fact, had often been the slowest thinker in my classes. This made school difficult and I struggled accordingly. Ultimately, I offset this by studying harder than my peers. For me, it has never been about reading the material and repeating, for example, some mathematics system from memory, but in truly understanding that system. I consider myself a deep thinker that can easily connect concepts, graph relationships, and see the big picture. This is why I prefer to work as an architect, on security projects, and inevitably play the right stocks on the market. I suppose, anecdotally, if I'm any model, that deep thinkers might be better suited to certain roles and might naturally gravitate toward them. Finally, and now a bit off-topic: The fact that deep thinkers might be equated with "late-bloomers" might have to do less with "figuring out what they're good at", and more to do with a society and a system which is prejudiced against them. If deep-thinkers were better nurtured and led through the educational system, they may not spend their thirties, or even 40's, learning how and where to apply their talents.

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mahyarm 12y ago

I think a better distinction are qualities of intelligence. For example a meticulous person will do well in a hard pattern matching puzzle, but ask them to do symbol substitution and they will be relatively slow and get a low score.

mrexroad 12y ago
interesting. the "fast vs deep" comment intrigued me; i find i can go exceedingly deep when i can let things "simmer." to your comment, i had an intelligence test administered as a teen and the two outliers were basically symbol substation (< avg) and pattern matching (high).
- mahyarm 12y ago
  It's a common pattern with engineering types. In programming you have to be highly detailed and accurate because computer languages are not forgiving, and you have to notice tricky patterns to fix bugs. It's called being meticulous officially I think. This is why you need someone trained to interpret your IQ test, you cant just feed them into a scantron. There is a skill component to those things although. You could practice them a bit and improve your scores significantly. But is that really intelligence or just skill? It will always be a combination.

tsunamifury 12y ago

An entire book was written about it recently called Thinking Fast, and Slow. It is a detailed 900 page exploration if a lifetime of research from the famous behavioral economist Daniel Kahneman on the topic

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ewindisch 12y ago

You might wish to look at fewer applicants sporting advanced degrees and specifically hire roles that deep thinkers would naturally gravitate toward, degree or not. As elsewhere mentioned, our educational system often ties success to fast thinking. I've always known I am not a fast thinker and, in fact, had often been the slowest thinker in my classes. This made school difficult and I struggled accordingly. Ultimately, I offset this by studying harder than my peers. For me, it has never been about reading the material and repeating, for example, some mathematics system from memory, but in truly understanding that system. I consider myself a deep thinker that can easily connect concepts, graph relationships, and see the big picture. This is why I prefer to work as an architect, on security projects, and inevitably play the right stocks on the market. I suppose, anecdotally, if I'm any model, that deep thinkers might be better suited to certain roles and might naturally gravitate toward them. Finally, and now a bit off-topic: The fact that deep thinkers might be equated with "late-bloomers" might have to do less with "figuring out what they're good at", and more to do with a society and a system which is prejudiced against them. If deep-thinkers were better nurtured and led through the educational system, they may not spend their thirties, or even 40's, learning how and where to apply their talents.