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Really? How young are you talking about? I graduated about a year ago and almost everyone I knew who was really interested in writing software read at least som

Really? How young are you talking about? I graduated about a year ago and almost everyone I knew who was really interested in writing software read at least some of his stuff from joelonsoftware...

67726e 12y ago
Same. I even went so far as to buy his books that are compilations of his writings and compilations of his curations of other great writings. However, I feel like we might be self selecting here for people who give a damn about their craft on this thread ;)
arthurjj 12y ago
I think it's a cultural osmosis thing. If the older developers mention stuff like "We're a 9 on the Joel test"[1] or "Obviously we shouldn't do a rewrite, what are we Netscape"[2] or "Are code base is large enough that the tooling requires static typing"[3] People will read the essays. If all anyone is talking about is tech-crunch, probably not [1]http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html [2]http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html[3]https://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/is-weak-typing-strong-enough http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html[3]...
- thesz 12y ago
  You messed with your third link. I've read it and I'd say that Steve Yeggie is making generalizations about static type systems using greatest common divisor of them all: Java. He attributes the need for patterns to OCaml type system, where they aren't needed, for example. Or assumes that you need all interfaces up front. Both those assumptions are not true! I think SY is good at jealous humor like his post about "academy found an software engineer who cares about Haskell". That's his natural domain. I believe everything he writes is homorous and jealous, that way I don't have to think he is just plain stupid.

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Really? How young are you talking about? I graduated about a year ago and almost everyone I knew who was really interested in writing software read at least som

by ssalenik 12y ago

Really? How young are you talking about? I graduated about a year ago and almost everyone I knew who was really interested in writing software read at least some of his stuff from joelonsoftware...

67726e 12y ago
Same. I even went so far as to buy his books that are compilations of his writings and compilations of his curations of other great writings. However, I feel like we might be self selecting here for people who give a damn about their craft on this thread ;)
arthurjj 12y ago
I think it's a cultural osmosis thing. If the older developers mention stuff like "We're a 9 on the Joel test"[1] or "Obviously we shouldn't do a rewrite, what are we Netscape"[2] or "Are code base is large enough that the tooling requires static typing"[3] People will read the essays. If all anyone is talking about is tech-crunch, probably not [1]http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html [2]http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html[3]https://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/is-weak-typing-strong-enough http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html[3]...
- thesz 12y ago
  You messed with your third link. I've read it and I'd say that Steve Yeggie is making generalizations about static type systems using greatest common divisor of them all: Java. He attributes the need for patterns to OCaml type system, where they aren't needed, for example. Or assumes that you need all interfaces up front. Both those assumptions are not true! I think SY is good at jealous humor like his post about "academy found an software engineer who cares about Haskell". That's his natural domain. I believe everything he writes is homorous and jealous, that way I don't have to think he is just plain stupid.