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Still no Nastaliq [1] for Urdu and Persian script. There's a great piece on Medium [2] about the death of the Urdu script at the hands of the more structured A

Still no Nastaliq [1] for Urdu and Persian script. There's a great piece on Medium [2] about the death of the Urdu script at the hands of the more structured Arabic Naskh font. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasta%CA%BFl%C4%ABq_script https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasta%CA%BFl%C4%ABq_script [2] https://medium.com/@eteraz/the-death-of-the-urdu-script-9ce935435d90 https://medium.com/@eteraz/the-death-of-the-urdu-script-9ce9...

sandGorgon 12y ago
Could you file a bug at https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/list https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/list ? This is a great place for @eteraz to get involved.
- sandGorgon 12y ago
  Since nobody did it, I filed a bug at https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/detail?id=39 https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/detail?id=39 through my phone. the title is messed up, but I hope the message is clear.
  - kps 12y ago
    Since this article is still on the front page of HN, let me paste the response: “We are working on a Noto Nastaliq as well. So stay tuned.”
scrollaway 12y ago
I saw the article before and I too was deeply moved by it, but don't you think you could word this better so as not to make it sound so blasé? "Pah, no nastaliq, useless!" -- this is an amazing project.
- mynameisvlad 12y ago
  +1. It sounds incredibly condescending the way it's written right now. Like the omission of Nastaliq is a great tragedy and Google should be deeply ashamed.
  - gioele 12y ago
    > Like the omission of Nastaliq is a great tragedy and Google should be deeply ashamed. Well, the heading says «Beautiful and free fonts for all languages» and the OP noticed that it fails to include at least one important script/language combination.
    - mynameisvlad 12y ago
      A. I wouldn't exactly call an almost-dead not-incredibly-commonly-used script "important". Especially when others, which are available on Noto, are more widely used. B. There's much better ways of phrasing the request than the way it was written.
      - sandGorgon 12y ago
        A. incorrect. I have just one word for you - Bollywood [1] [2] [1] https://www.google.co.in/search?q=bollywood+urdu&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=hYi&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=507GU5HZL8e-uAS4vYKoDw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1467&bih=707 https://www.google.co.in/search?q=bollywood+urdu&safe=off&cl... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi_and_Urdu_wedding_songs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi_and_Urdu_wedding_songs
        mynameisvlad 12y ago
        First of all, I wouldn't call one specific use case proving that it isn't almost dead. Just because it's being used in one case, for Bollywood wedding songs, does not mean it isn't "almost dead". Secondly, it was by the OPs own admission that the language is dying.
        sandGorgon 12y ago
        true - except when that one usecase is a billion people. I'm just pointing out that there is a skewed worldview of asian countries. My previous comment was in jest, but was fairly accurate in its portrayal of impact. a far more cut and dry statistic is this [1] and this [2] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_Urdu_speakers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_Urdu_speaker... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Jang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Jang
capex 12y ago
The Urdu font they currently have there is not too bad. I won't mind reading a passage in this font.
mikehotel 12y ago
You can find a nice Nastaliq font at http://urdu.ca/1 http://urdu.ca/1 (direct link: http://urdu.ca/UrduFonts.zip http://urdu.ca/UrduFonts.zip). More are available at http://www.urdujahan.com/font.html http://www.urdujahan.com/font.html. You will want to find out how they are licensed before using them in a commercial capacity.
cies 12y ago
Big thanks to Google for this effort... But true, no Nastaliq (yet). Sadly not even mentioned as "unsupported".

sandGorgon 12y ago

Could you file a bug at https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/list https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/list ? This is a great place for @eteraz to get involved.

sandGorgon 12y ago
Since nobody did it, I filed a bug at https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/detail?id=39 https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/detail?id=39 through my phone. the title is messed up, but I hope the message is clear.
- kps 12y ago
  Since this article is still on the front page of HN, let me paste the response: “We are working on a Noto Nastaliq as well. So stay tuned.”

scrollaway 12y ago

I saw the article before and I too was deeply moved by it, but don't you think you could word this better so as not to make it sound so blasé? "Pah, no nastaliq, useless!" -- this is an amazing project.

mynameisvlad 12y ago
+1. It sounds incredibly condescending the way it's written right now. Like the omission of Nastaliq is a great tragedy and Google should be deeply ashamed.
- gioele 12y ago
  > Like the omission of Nastaliq is a great tragedy and Google should be deeply ashamed. Well, the heading says «Beautiful and free fonts for all languages» and the OP noticed that it fails to include at least one important script/language combination.
  - mynameisvlad 12y ago
    A. I wouldn't exactly call an almost-dead not-incredibly-commonly-used script "important". Especially when others, which are available on Noto, are more widely used. B. There's much better ways of phrasing the request than the way it was written.
    - sandGorgon 12y ago
      A. incorrect. I have just one word for you - Bollywood [1] [2] [1] https://www.google.co.in/search?q=bollywood+urdu&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=hYi&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=507GU5HZL8e-uAS4vYKoDw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1467&bih=707 https://www.google.co.in/search?q=bollywood+urdu&safe=off&cl... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi_and_Urdu_wedding_songs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi_and_Urdu_wedding_songs
      - mynameisvlad 12y ago
        First of all, I wouldn't call one specific use case proving that it isn't almost dead. Just because it's being used in one case, for Bollywood wedding songs, does not mean it isn't "almost dead". Secondly, it was by the OPs own admission that the language is dying.
        sandGorgon 12y ago
        true - except when that one usecase is a billion people. I'm just pointing out that there is a skewed worldview of asian countries. My previous comment was in jest, but was fairly accurate in its portrayal of impact. a far more cut and dry statistic is this [1] and this [2] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_Urdu_speakers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_Urdu_speaker... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Jang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Jang

capex 12y ago

The Urdu font they currently have there is not too bad. I won't mind reading a passage in this font.

mikehotel 12y ago

You can find a nice Nastaliq font at http://urdu.ca/1 http://urdu.ca/1 (direct link: http://urdu.ca/UrduFonts.zip http://urdu.ca/UrduFonts.zip). More are available at http://www.urdujahan.com/font.html http://www.urdujahan.com/font.html. You will want to find out how they are licensed before using them in a commercial capacity.

cies 12y ago

Big thanks to Google for this effort... But true, no Nastaliq (yet). Sadly not even mentioned as "unsupported".