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No, it isn't. You can't dictate interest.
by drz 12y ago
No, it isn't. You can't dictate interest.
- sp332 12y agoIt is trivially easy to influence interest. http://www.washington.edu/news/2013/06/25/more-women-pick-computer-science-if-media-nix-outdated-nerd-stereotype/ http://www.washington.edu/news/2013/06/25/more-women-pick-co...
- drz 12y agoThis study is about stereotypes, not interest, not merit, not anything that's actually relevant. You know what shows interest? A female willingly taking and passing CS courses. Not this bullshit.
- sp332 12y agoWhat you need is a study showing how many women showed interest and then were talked out of it. http://www.npr.org/2012/07/12/156664337/stereotype-threat-why-women-quit-science-jobs http://www.npr.org/2012/07/12/156664337/stereotype-threat-wh...
- drz 12y ago> When female scientists talked to other female scientists, they sounded perfectly competent. But when they talked to male colleagues, Mehl and Schmader found that they sounded less competent. Could it be that they, comparatively, are? Nah. That would make too much sense. Let's blame it on the all-powerful patriarchy, which we can't even prove to exist. That's not insane at all.
- sp332 12y agoIt's the same women, in conversations with men vs other women, sound different. Edit: you're the first person to mention the patriarchy, let alone blame it.
- drz 12y agoYes, and the researchers aren't even considering the possibility that these women sound incompetent when talking to men, because they actually, comparatively, are. They discount the most obvious explanation without even testing for it, and expect to be taken seriously. What a joke.
- sp332 12y agoWomen suddenly become less competent when talking to men?
- drz 12y agoThe obvious hypothesis is that women sound less competent when talking to men because they are less competent than men, on average. They don't sound less competent when talking to women because they aren't less competent than other women, on average. Playing dumb won't help you win this argument. It will just make you look just as dumb as the researchers.
- sp332 12y agohttp://schmader.psych.ubc.ca/publications/2011/Talking%20shop%20and%20shooting%20the%20breeze%202011.pdf http://schmader.psych.ubc.ca/publications/2011/Talking%20sho... our male and female samples were matched by rank, discipline, and research productivity and impact The particular men and women chosen for the study were not, objectively speaking, different in competence. This is a study of perceived competence.
- drz 12y ago> because they are less competent than men, on average. Not necessarily in comparison to the specific researcher they're talking to. On average. Reading comprehension is a great skill. You should look into it.
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