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You might work on your delivery of the whole "If you don't agree with me, then you're a fucking scumbag" thing. People more sensitive than I might construe tha

You might work on your delivery of the whole "If you don't agree with me, then you're a fucking scumbag" thing. People more sensitive than I might construe that as inappropriate - perhaps as harassment.

vor_ 12y ago
He didn't say that if you didn't agree with him, you're a fucking scumbag. He said that if you're still claiming we should reserve judgement after it's been confirmed that the messages were sent, you're a fucking scumbag. In my opinion, that's a non-controversial statement and likely to be true. Edit: Here are the messages: http://www.buzzfeed.com/sapna/tinder-sued-for-sexual-harassment http://www.buzzfeed.com/sapna/tinder-sued-for-sexual-harassm...
- bmelton 12y ago
  And yet, where's the harm in waiting for the full story to be revealed? As an apologist mechanism, I'll concede that it's lacking, but even in the face of evidence, we should be wary of indicting anything for which we don't have personal, inside involvement, but even for cases, like this, for which there appears to be evidence, predisposing ourselves to a cause makes it less likely that we'll adjust our opinions in the event that counter-evidence is provided, or the existing evidence is placed into a context which might make it otherwise reasonable. Note, I'm not suggesting that any of the above applies here, but as a general practice, avoiding prejudgement in the absence of all the facts is a bad way to approach gossip.
  - vor_ 12y ago
    > Note, I'm not suggesting that any of the above applies here, but as a general practice, avoiding prejudgement in the absence of all the facts is a bad way to approach gossip. This isn't gossip. The text messages in the complaint have been confirmed and condemned by Tinder. She was clearly sexually harassed by Mateen, who has been suspended. Tinder is disputing the allegations with respect to its management.
    - bmelton 12y ago
      Call me old fashioned, but allegations with legal implications are, to me at least, gossip, until ruled on by the courts and juries.

vor_ 12y ago

He didn't say that if you didn't agree with him, you're a fucking scumbag. He said that if you're still claiming we should reserve judgement after it's been confirmed that the messages were sent, you're a fucking scumbag. In my opinion, that's a non-controversial statement and likely to be true. Edit: Here are the messages: http://www.buzzfeed.com/sapna/tinder-sued-for-sexual-harassment http://www.buzzfeed.com/sapna/tinder-sued-for-sexual-harassm...

bmelton 12y ago
And yet, where's the harm in waiting for the full story to be revealed? As an apologist mechanism, I'll concede that it's lacking, but even in the face of evidence, we should be wary of indicting anything for which we don't have personal, inside involvement, but even for cases, like this, for which there appears to be evidence, predisposing ourselves to a cause makes it less likely that we'll adjust our opinions in the event that counter-evidence is provided, or the existing evidence is placed into a context which might make it otherwise reasonable. Note, I'm not suggesting that any of the above applies here, but as a general practice, avoiding prejudgement in the absence of all the facts is a bad way to approach gossip.
- vor_ 12y ago
  > Note, I'm not suggesting that any of the above applies here, but as a general practice, avoiding prejudgement in the absence of all the facts is a bad way to approach gossip. This isn't gossip. The text messages in the complaint have been confirmed and condemned by Tinder. She was clearly sexually harassed by Mateen, who has been suspended. Tinder is disputing the allegations with respect to its management.
  - bmelton 12y ago
    Call me old fashioned, but allegations with legal implications are, to me at least, gossip, until ruled on by the courts and juries.