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1) it's thin and pretty 2) self-contained. Only a power cable is required. Makes a neat desk. 3) it's completely silent (but then again so is a mac mini) 4)

by hackety 12y ago

1) it's thin and pretty 2) self-contained. Only a power cable is required. Makes a neat desk. 3) it's completely silent (but then again so is a mac mini) 4) the higher-end models have an actual graphics card (mac mini has very bad graphics)

teh_klev 12y ago
The "x 1080" in the display dimensions make me sad. It's a shame this is becoming the norm on medium sized panels and not 1920x1200.
- hackety 12y ago
  1080p is fine for 21". (Until they go retina). Mind you, the 27" has 1440p.
  - projct 12y ago
    I think the extra 180 pixels of vertical resolution is what he's worried about. I am too, that little bit helps a lot, even with the dock hidden and off to the side of the screen.
- randallsquared 12y ago
  It's "becoming" the norm? That was happening 6-8 years ago. Now 1080p has been the norm for something like two upgrade cycles, and anyone who currently cares about resolution beyond that is looking at 1440p or more.
  - hollerith 12y ago
    Grandparent means he is sad that the 16:9 aspect ratio is becoming the norm. He prefers 16:10.
    - randallsquared 12y ago
      Right, and that transition happened last decade, not this one... Perhaps I was too specific with the 1080p mention.
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      - mwfunk 12y ago
        There was certainly a transition from 5:4 to widescreen displays in the 2000s, with nearly everyone but Apple opting for 16:9. I don't recall any mass adoption of 16:10 followed by a mass migration to 16:9 in the last decade, which is what you're stating happened. If Apple is moving from 16:10 to 16:9, then that would indeed be a very recent development. If this is the case, it would be kind of sad to me (I prefer a bit more vertical space), but understandable given the economics of the panel business.
        randallsquared 12y ago
        > I don't recall any mass adoption of 16:10 followed by a mass migration to 16:9 in the last decade, which is what you're stating happened. I don't quite agree with what you're stating I'm stating. (I realize that this has gone on way longer than the original reply warranted, but...) User teh_klev said that they were sad that 1080p "was becoming" the norm on medium sized panels, and that 1920x1200 wasn't becoming the norm, instead. I replied that the transition to 1080p had already occurred, some time ago. I don't believe that either teh_klev or I implied that there was mass adoption of 1920x1200 (16:10), only that teh_klev would have preferred that there have been such a mass adoption, and I was suggesting that that preference (which I share, though I didn't mention it[1]) became moot last decade. [1] though it turns out that if the screen is large enough and the resolution high enough, I no longer care about the precise aspect ratio...
        teh_klev 12y ago
        Oh aye, I know the transition has happened for a while. I also realise why this happened (due to the 1080p/16:9 format being the standard in content delivery and consumer displays such as flat screen tellys). This makes it a marketing no brainer for box builders such as Dell and Apple to standardise on 16:9, the format and "1080p" branding is recognisable to consumers. However, for those of us doing "serious" work where we need those extra 120 lines, finding a decent >=21" panel (or even 17" one in a laptop) is getting expensive/more difficult to find.

by hackety 12y ago

teh_klev 12y ago

The "x 1080" in the display dimensions make me sad. It's a shame this is becoming the norm on medium sized panels and not 1920x1200.

hackety 12y ago
1080p is fine for 21". (Until they go retina). Mind you, the 27" has 1440p.
- projct 12y ago
  I think the extra 180 pixels of vertical resolution is what he's worried about. I am too, that little bit helps a lot, even with the dock hidden and off to the side of the screen.
randallsquared 12y ago
It's "becoming" the norm? That was happening 6-8 years ago. Now 1080p has been the norm for something like two upgrade cycles, and anyone who currently cares about resolution beyond that is looking at 1440p or more.
- hollerith 12y ago
  Grandparent means he is sad that the 16:9 aspect ratio is becoming the norm. He prefers 16:10.
  - randallsquared 12y ago
    Right, and that transition happened last decade, not this one... Perhaps I was too specific with the 1080p mention.
    - deleted 12y ago
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    - mwfunk 12y ago
      There was certainly a transition from 5:4 to widescreen displays in the 2000s, with nearly everyone but Apple opting for 16:9. I don't recall any mass adoption of 16:10 followed by a mass migration to 16:9 in the last decade, which is what you're stating happened. If Apple is moving from 16:10 to 16:9, then that would indeed be a very recent development. If this is the case, it would be kind of sad to me (I prefer a bit more vertical space), but understandable given the economics of the panel business.
      - randallsquared 12y ago
        > I don't recall any mass adoption of 16:10 followed by a mass migration to 16:9 in the last decade, which is what you're stating happened. I don't quite agree with what you're stating I'm stating. (I realize that this has gone on way longer than the original reply warranted, but...) User teh_klev said that they were sad that 1080p "was becoming" the norm on medium sized panels, and that 1920x1200 wasn't becoming the norm, instead. I replied that the transition to 1080p had already occurred, some time ago. I don't believe that either teh_klev or I implied that there was mass adoption of 1920x1200 (16:10), only that teh_klev would have preferred that there have been such a mass adoption, and I was suggesting that that preference (which I share, though I didn't mention it[1]) became moot last decade. [1] though it turns out that if the screen is large enough and the resolution high enough, I no longer care about the precise aspect ratio...
        teh_klev 12y ago
        Oh aye, I know the transition has happened for a while. I also realise why this happened (due to the 1080p/16:9 format being the standard in content delivery and consumer displays such as flat screen tellys). This makes it a marketing no brainer for box builders such as Dell and Apple to standardise on 16:9, the format and "1080p" branding is recognisable to consumers. However, for those of us doing "serious" work where we need those extra 120 lines, finding a decent >=21" panel (or even 17" one in a laptop) is getting expensive/more difficult to find.