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If you sysprep generalize the machine before you swap the board it'll work afterwards. It's like moaning that your brain transplant resulted in you not being ab

by pling 12y ago

If you sysprep generalize the machine before you swap the board it'll work afterwards. It's like moaning that your brain transplant resulted in you not being able to move your arms or something similar.

4ad 12y ago
The analogy is unsound, you can do this with any Linux/BSD/Solaris system just fine. It's Windows who requires a more complex procedure here. So yes, it's user's fault, but the point is that in this particular instance Linux is more user friendly compared to Windows. The user needs more knowledge and expertise to do the same operation with a Windows machine compared to a Linux machine.
- pling 12y ago
  I disagree. If you take the disks out of a Dell and stuff them in an HP machine with the same chipset, Linux gives you no guarantee the Ethernet ports will be the same order on startup. It's just different and you see the differences as misfeatures.
  - scrollaway 12y ago
    > Linux gives you no guarantee the Ethernet ports will be the same order on startup Systemd does.
    - pling 12y ago
      a) Debian stable, Ubuntu, rhel6 don't have systemd. So no our servers don't. b) it can't assume heuristics like that if the vendor changes so no it can't. This was based on a complete data transplant.
      - scrollaway 12y ago
        When I complain about Windows, I'm expected to complain about things that are still present in the latest version of windows (8.1 currently), not things that are no longer an issue since XP. In return, I expect you to do the same when complaining about Linux. This is a solved problem and systemd is coming to debian as well.
        pling 12y ago
        In that case that would be complaining about windows 9. There are no mmainstream distributions shipping systemd yet.
        scrollaway 12y ago
        Windows 8.1 is not mainstream either, compared to 7.
        pling 12y ago
        I'm sitting in an office with 120x 8.1 systems at the moment so...
        scrollaway 12y ago
        And I'm sitting in an office with over 200 Fedora and Arch Linux machines. What's your point?

by pling 12y ago

4ad 12y ago

The analogy is unsound, you can do this with any Linux/BSD/Solaris system just fine. It's Windows who requires a more complex procedure here. So yes, it's user's fault, but the point is that in this particular instance Linux is more user friendly compared to Windows. The user needs more knowledge and expertise to do the same operation with a Windows machine compared to a Linux machine.

pling 12y ago
I disagree. If you take the disks out of a Dell and stuff them in an HP machine with the same chipset, Linux gives you no guarantee the Ethernet ports will be the same order on startup. It's just different and you see the differences as misfeatures.
- scrollaway 12y ago
  > Linux gives you no guarantee the Ethernet ports will be the same order on startup Systemd does.
  - pling 12y ago
    a) Debian stable, Ubuntu, rhel6 don't have systemd. So no our servers don't. b) it can't assume heuristics like that if the vendor changes so no it can't. This was based on a complete data transplant.
    - scrollaway 12y ago
      When I complain about Windows, I'm expected to complain about things that are still present in the latest version of windows (8.1 currently), not things that are no longer an issue since XP. In return, I expect you to do the same when complaining about Linux. This is a solved problem and systemd is coming to debian as well.
      - pling 12y ago
        In that case that would be complaining about windows 9. There are no mmainstream distributions shipping systemd yet.
        scrollaway 12y ago
        Windows 8.1 is not mainstream either, compared to 7.
        pling 12y ago
        I'm sitting in an office with 120x 8.1 systems at the moment so...
        scrollaway 12y ago
        And I'm sitting in an office with over 200 Fedora and Arch Linux machines. What's your point?