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The main selling point of Popcorn Time is that it allows to watch movies more easily than solutions that asks money for that. I don't think music industry has t

The main selling point of Popcorn Time is that it allows to watch movies more easily than solutions that asks money for that. I don't think music industry has this problem — there are services like Spotify, Rdio and many more that offers painless listening. That aside, the app looks really polished and I'm glad it has Linux support backed in.

bru 12y ago
However, unlike Popcorn Time, this one is closed source.
- edent 12y ago
  https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop
- jgillich 12y ago
  While there is no license in the repo so it is technically not open source, the code is available: https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop
newaccountfool 12y ago
No adverts?
- Mikushi 12y ago
  It always has to be free with you people... You don't want adverts? Pay for the service. Spotify is well worth the money, £10/month is almost giving it away.
  - Touche 12y ago
    Artists make nothing from Spotify, so why is it so much worse to use a service that is completely free?
    - brentm 12y ago
      Spotify has paid artists more than $1B to date, $500 million in 2013 alone. source: http://www.spotifyartists.com/spotify-explained/ http://www.spotifyartists.com/spotify-explained/
      - Touche 12y ago
        Totals don't speak to individual income, what is the mean, median, and range per artist?
        newaccountfool 12y ago
        True that, they make pennies, but they do get exposure. But then if your going down the 'Every pirate play is a lost sale' route they should be giving the artists more. Has there been profit data released about spotify? What does there CEO make?
lawl 12y ago
Spotify randomly deleted my offline library on android. Of course when I was traveling and didn't have a data plan. Canceled my premium subscription a month ago or so. This happened multiple times to me. Yup I'm at the point again where maintaining my own library is more convinient again. It's exactly the DRM shit I won't put up with. Also spotify, rdio etc. Are exactly the same price with the same restrictions per plan (in .ch at least). Price cartel, oligopoly?
- duiker101 12y ago
  Spotify did the same to me, multiple times. Last time yesterday when my pc randomly lost permissions for offline storage. But that is not an excuse. The music industry in trying to provide alternative ways, and I extremely appreciate it and think that we need to be supportive. Only by supporting this changes we will ever see any improvements, we need to find a middleground that can satisfy both parties. Spotify offers a great service on a great platform. It can have his hippicus but that can happen with everything. What would happen if the player app you are using to play your offline library breaks and you have no data?
  - lawl 12y ago
    Usually the media players I use, they uhm play media. Like in open(...,'r'). And should it break my library then I have backups, because there is no DRM with the only usecase of trying to annoy me. So no, I don't support them. I use Steam though, I think they got DRM right for the most part. I'd prefer no DRM, really. But with Steam I don't notice any DRM. That's good enough for me. I only use it in online mode though.
    - miah_ 12y ago
      gaben has said numerous times that he cares more about cheaters than pirates. Steam implements anti-cheating technology, but afaict many games don't include DRM unless the publisher demands it.
  - RobAley 12y ago
    It's absolutely the opposite. We need not to be supportive. The industry has demonstrated time and time again it is more than happy with the status quo, and the only reason it's even gone as far as Spotify and co is that people voted with their feet/cash. Be supportive of their efforts, and they'll take that as a sign to stop right there. Sticks, not carrots.
vidyesh 12y ago
Don't forget all the services you mentioned have region restrictions and most are pretty much legally bound to those restrictions. Also they are more or less a freemium service. I guess HipHop isn't.
sudhirj 12y ago
Only in the few first world countries that these services operate in.
- Fuxy 12y ago
  True... Luckily I'm in one of these countries at the moment. However I'm certain my country of birth is still not covered by these services so in that case this is a good alternative.
- DCKing 12y ago
  You only need to register "in" one of these countries. Spotify works everywhere with an internet connection after that.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  >> "Only in the few first world countries that these services operate in." False. Spotify is available in 45 countries. Deezer is available in over 180!
  - Kequc 12y ago
    Given how stringent Germany is with regard to copyright laws and adding huge fees to everything played anywhere I'm amazed Spotify made it here, but it has and I use it every day.
Touche 12y ago
The main selling point of PT is that it allows watching movies for free. It's not easier because you can't easily watch PT on a Television, the main place people watch movies. This duplicates PT's main selling point.
kuschku 12y ago
>there are services like Spotify, Rdio and many more that offers painless listening. Sadly most of these are only available in the US – and there are ~500 million people in the EU without access to most of these services. Luckily it gets better nowadays, Spotify exists in most countries here, iTunes in contrast to Google Play actually sells everywhere (GPlay only in some countries here) and with Netflix coming to Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, France and some other countries from 2015 on movie piracy will also go down.

bru 12y ago

However, unlike Popcorn Time, this one is closed source.

edent 12y ago
https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop
jgillich 12y ago
While there is no license in the repo so it is technically not open source, the code is available: https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop

newaccountfool 12y ago

No adverts?

Mikushi 12y ago
It always has to be free with you people... You don't want adverts? Pay for the service. Spotify is well worth the money, £10/month is almost giving it away.
- Touche 12y ago
  Artists make nothing from Spotify, so why is it so much worse to use a service that is completely free?
  - brentm 12y ago
    Spotify has paid artists more than $1B to date, $500 million in 2013 alone. source: http://www.spotifyartists.com/spotify-explained/ http://www.spotifyartists.com/spotify-explained/
    - Touche 12y ago
      Totals don't speak to individual income, what is the mean, median, and range per artist?
      - newaccountfool 12y ago
        True that, they make pennies, but they do get exposure. But then if your going down the 'Every pirate play is a lost sale' route they should be giving the artists more. Has there been profit data released about spotify? What does there CEO make?

lawl 12y ago

Spotify randomly deleted my offline library on android. Of course when I was traveling and didn't have a data plan. Canceled my premium subscription a month ago or so. This happened multiple times to me. Yup I'm at the point again where maintaining my own library is more convinient again. It's exactly the DRM shit I won't put up with. Also spotify, rdio etc. Are exactly the same price with the same restrictions per plan (in .ch at least). Price cartel, oligopoly?

duiker101 12y ago
Spotify did the same to me, multiple times. Last time yesterday when my pc randomly lost permissions for offline storage. But that is not an excuse. The music industry in trying to provide alternative ways, and I extremely appreciate it and think that we need to be supportive. Only by supporting this changes we will ever see any improvements, we need to find a middleground that can satisfy both parties. Spotify offers a great service on a great platform. It can have his hippicus but that can happen with everything. What would happen if the player app you are using to play your offline library breaks and you have no data?
- lawl 12y ago
  Usually the media players I use, they uhm play media. Like in open(...,'r'). And should it break my library then I have backups, because there is no DRM with the only usecase of trying to annoy me. So no, I don't support them. I use Steam though, I think they got DRM right for the most part. I'd prefer no DRM, really. But with Steam I don't notice any DRM. That's good enough for me. I only use it in online mode though.
  - miah_ 12y ago
    gaben has said numerous times that he cares more about cheaters than pirates. Steam implements anti-cheating technology, but afaict many games don't include DRM unless the publisher demands it.
- RobAley 12y ago
  It's absolutely the opposite. We need not to be supportive. The industry has demonstrated time and time again it is more than happy with the status quo, and the only reason it's even gone as far as Spotify and co is that people voted with their feet/cash. Be supportive of their efforts, and they'll take that as a sign to stop right there. Sticks, not carrots.

vidyesh 12y ago

Don't forget all the services you mentioned have region restrictions and most are pretty much legally bound to those restrictions. Also they are more or less a freemium service. I guess HipHop isn't.

sudhirj 12y ago

Only in the few first world countries that these services operate in.

Fuxy 12y ago
True... Luckily I'm in one of these countries at the moment. However I'm certain my country of birth is still not covered by these services so in that case this is a good alternative.
DCKing 12y ago
You only need to register "in" one of these countries. Spotify works everywhere with an internet connection after that.
k-mcgrady 12y ago
>> "Only in the few first world countries that these services operate in." False. Spotify is available in 45 countries. Deezer is available in over 180!
- Kequc 12y ago
  Given how stringent Germany is with regard to copyright laws and adding huge fees to everything played anywhere I'm amazed Spotify made it here, but it has and I use it every day.

Touche 12y ago

The main selling point of PT is that it allows watching movies for free. It's not easier because you can't easily watch PT on a Television, the main place people watch movies. This duplicates PT's main selling point.

kuschku 12y ago

>there are services like Spotify, Rdio and many more that offers painless listening. Sadly most of these are only available in the US – and there are ~500 million people in the EU without access to most of these services. Luckily it gets better nowadays, Spotify exists in most countries here, iTunes in contrast to Google Play actually sells everywhere (GPlay only in some countries here) and with Netflix coming to Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, France and some other countries from 2015 on movie piracy will also go down.