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"Its first netbook, the Nokia Booklet 3G, will use Microsoft’s Windows software and Intel’s Atom processor" There, doomed. If you don't extend your arms to th

"Its first netbook, the Nokia Booklet 3G, will use Microsoft’s Windows software and Intel’s Atom processor" There, doomed. If you don't extend your arms to the open source community, don't expect us to open our arms when you need us. Fuck you Nokia.

imp 17y ago
The analyst quoted in the article thinks that it may just be an experiment for now. Maybe using Windows is the quickest way for them to get to market and test their product. Just because they chose Windows for this first launch doesn't mean they won't use open source for netbooks in the future.
newacc 17y ago
I just can't wait for my browser to becomes my OS - it would be a game changing scenario - it won't matter what is pre-installed, you'll be able to switch your OS in a second ... it won't even matter what h/w you are using (PC on intel, MAC on intel, Linux on whatever) .... i wonder how much a h/w platform or pre-installed s/w would matter in one's life when a browser is your new OS and almost all your apps are on the cloud !!!
- gloob 17y ago
  Who wrote the browser? The window manager? The compiler, assembler, and linker? What about computer games? I don't see us doing Crysis in Javascript any time soon. The web is great for some things, but some things aren't everything.
  - newacc 17y ago
    whatever i said is from common endusers perspective and not from YC news reader's(who are mostly techies) point of view - just like the way we switch our browser right now ... we will be able to do the same with the OS!! or even better, there will be multiple browser OS preinstalled, you pick what you want.... as far as h/w platform is concern it would be too early to make a call, we may think right now that intel will lead the market/platform as they now support both (PC & MAC) but i wont be surprised if there are new players... especially from taiwan and china!!! And even if intel dominates the microprocessor market, I really wonder how would a common man will differentiate a MAC laptop with Lenovo's thinkpad because all they have installed is the same Browser-OS (chrome, safari etc.) on the same platform (intel), with the same specs(say 4GB RAM, 5 USB ports, 2HDMI, same display card.... etc.) and almost everything else is on the cloud .... i guess then it would be all about speed, power and exterior look/design of the laptop??!!!
    - gloob 17y ago
      Please, exactly, tell me what a browser-OS is. Are we talking about something like Chrome OS, which looks like it will be an OS whose primary (edit: or even sole?) purpose is to run a browser? Then it's basically just a crippled version of what we already have. Or would we actually be talking browser-as-an-OS-properly, where some hypothetical browser decides to take up the mantle of process management, drivers, etc? I don't doubt that lots of interesting things will pop up on the web. But "browser-as-that-thing-I-spend-a-lot-of-time-in" is very, very different from any sane definition of "browser-as-an-OS".
      - newacc 17y ago
        Google is planning a OS but in the form of browser... visit: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-ch...
  - cpach 17y ago
    I bet most computer users never play Crysis.
    - gloob 17y ago
      I bet most computer users have never used a bash shell. I still prefer the world with it to a hypothetical one without it. Same goes for high end computer games.
- shiranaihito 17y ago
  Arrington? Is it you?
pavlov 17y ago
Huh. Nokia is pretty much the #1 sugar daddy of open source in the mobile tech business. In the past year, they have: * Bought Symbian and open-sourced the entire OS. * Bought Trolltech, relicensed the Qt toolkit to LGPL, and developed new Python bindings from scratch. * Poured investment into Maemo, including 3G phone support (check out the upcoming Nokia N900). They're just testing the waters with this new Windows 7 notebook. (Did you notice that the screenshots are mostly showing Ovi Suite 2.0 which is Qt-based and will be available on Linux as well?)
- TweedHeads 17y ago
  I know the history of Nokia and open source. If you give me candies and later on you make me suck your cock that doesn't make you adorable. I'll leave this question open: why not just offer BOTH options, Win7 AND Ubuntu? Not OR, NOR, XOR, FOR or anything ambivalent. I here request Nokia to deliver BOTH win7 AND Ubuntu! Show us you're not being strongarmed by M$ like everybody else in the netbook world. Pussies.
  - inovica 17y ago
    Wow, what a nice guy you are. I bet you're great for dinner parties

imp 17y ago

The analyst quoted in the article thinks that it may just be an experiment for now. Maybe using Windows is the quickest way for them to get to market and test their product. Just because they chose Windows for this first launch doesn't mean they won't use open source for netbooks in the future.

newacc 17y ago

I just can't wait for my browser to becomes my OS - it would be a game changing scenario - it won't matter what is pre-installed, you'll be able to switch your OS in a second ... it won't even matter what h/w you are using (PC on intel, MAC on intel, Linux on whatever) .... i wonder how much a h/w platform or pre-installed s/w would matter in one's life when a browser is your new OS and almost all your apps are on the cloud !!!

gloob 17y ago
Who wrote the browser? The window manager? The compiler, assembler, and linker? What about computer games? I don't see us doing Crysis in Javascript any time soon. The web is great for some things, but some things aren't everything.
- newacc 17y ago
  whatever i said is from common endusers perspective and not from YC news reader's(who are mostly techies) point of view - just like the way we switch our browser right now ... we will be able to do the same with the OS!! or even better, there will be multiple browser OS preinstalled, you pick what you want.... as far as h/w platform is concern it would be too early to make a call, we may think right now that intel will lead the market/platform as they now support both (PC & MAC) but i wont be surprised if there are new players... especially from taiwan and china!!! And even if intel dominates the microprocessor market, I really wonder how would a common man will differentiate a MAC laptop with Lenovo's thinkpad because all they have installed is the same Browser-OS (chrome, safari etc.) on the same platform (intel), with the same specs(say 4GB RAM, 5 USB ports, 2HDMI, same display card.... etc.) and almost everything else is on the cloud .... i guess then it would be all about speed, power and exterior look/design of the laptop??!!!
  - gloob 17y ago
    Please, exactly, tell me what a browser-OS is. Are we talking about something like Chrome OS, which looks like it will be an OS whose primary (edit: or even sole?) purpose is to run a browser? Then it's basically just a crippled version of what we already have. Or would we actually be talking browser-as-an-OS-properly, where some hypothetical browser decides to take up the mantle of process management, drivers, etc? I don't doubt that lots of interesting things will pop up on the web. But "browser-as-that-thing-I-spend-a-lot-of-time-in" is very, very different from any sane definition of "browser-as-an-OS".
    - newacc 17y ago
      Google is planning a OS but in the form of browser... visit: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-ch...
- cpach 17y ago
  I bet most computer users never play Crysis.
  - gloob 17y ago
    I bet most computer users have never used a bash shell. I still prefer the world with it to a hypothetical one without it. Same goes for high end computer games.
shiranaihito 17y ago
Arrington? Is it you?

pavlov 17y ago

Huh. Nokia is pretty much the #1 sugar daddy of open source in the mobile tech business. In the past year, they have: * Bought Symbian and open-sourced the entire OS. * Bought Trolltech, relicensed the Qt toolkit to LGPL, and developed new Python bindings from scratch. * Poured investment into Maemo, including 3G phone support (check out the upcoming Nokia N900). They're just testing the waters with this new Windows 7 notebook. (Did you notice that the screenshots are mostly showing Ovi Suite 2.0 which is Qt-based and will be available on Linux as well?)

TweedHeads 17y ago
I know the history of Nokia and open source. If you give me candies and later on you make me suck your cock that doesn't make you adorable. I'll leave this question open: why not just offer BOTH options, Win7 AND Ubuntu? Not OR, NOR, XOR, FOR or anything ambivalent. I here request Nokia to deliver BOTH win7 AND Ubuntu! Show us you're not being strongarmed by M$ like everybody else in the netbook world. Pussies.
- inovica 17y ago
  Wow, what a nice guy you are. I bet you're great for dinner parties