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I'd argue that it's precisely because of this decades 'gold rush' that a cultural shift has ensued towards nerds being the new cool. Suggestive evidence of thi

by ktran03 12y ago

I'd argue that it's precisely because of this decades 'gold rush' that a cultural shift has ensued towards nerds being the new cool. Suggestive evidence of this cultural shift? Have a look at the sitcoms/shows that are airing as of late. For the most part, the nerd/engineer/scientist is almost always highly revered, rarely ever viewed as 'sub-par' in any way. Contrast this with the 90's, (anecdotally) where nerds were often portrayed as the loser that no one wants to hang out with. An example that comes to mind, is Fresh Princes Carlton Banks character, to say Sheldon Cooper of the BBT. Very different portrayals, almost symbolic of the nerd image in each respective era.

parennoob 12y ago
Why on earth would you think Big Bang Theory is a positive portrayal of scientists and engineers? The scientists and engineers on that show are portrayed as unfit, socially awkward, overgrown children. I'll think scientists and engineers are highly revered when films about them start winning Oscars regularly (forget 'Gravity', that fell into the 'cool astronaut' category). In that sense, we've actually come backward since 'A Beautiful Mind', a film about an eccentric mathematician won four Oscars.
Pacabel 12y ago
The Carlton Banks character was not a "nerd". He represented a well-to-do/preppy/Ivy League/conservative/Republican/fratboy/"acting white" persona that contradicted with the poor/street-smart/ghetto/cool persona of the Will Smith character. And the Sheldon Cooper character was much more a portrayal of a contemporary obnoxious and vane "hipster" than a "nerd". The two male friend supporting characters were much closer to the "nerd" stereotype.
coldtea 12y ago
>I'd argue that it's precisely because of this decades 'gold rush' that a cultural shift has ensued towards nerds being the new cool. The nerds that (rarely) make it to the cultural spotlight are not the stereotypical nerds. More someone like DHH or some similar guy with charisma. Treating those that made it (and are older too) as special in some dedicated articles, profiles etc, is not unique to our age. It happened with Einstein, Feynman, etc, heck even back to Edison, but it didn't mean nerds had a better time back then. We don't ever see the equivalent of 18-yo Linus Torvalds or Woz, or some awkward introverted nerd as any kind of hero or role model. And I know from experience that most nerdy types had defficient social skills in high school / uni, and most still do outside of it. Do popular people in real life hang around with "Sheldon Cooper" types?

by ktran03 12y ago

parennoob 12y ago

Why on earth would you think Big Bang Theory is a positive portrayal of scientists and engineers? The scientists and engineers on that show are portrayed as unfit, socially awkward, overgrown children. I'll think scientists and engineers are highly revered when films about them start winning Oscars regularly (forget 'Gravity', that fell into the 'cool astronaut' category). In that sense, we've actually come backward since 'A Beautiful Mind', a film about an eccentric mathematician won four Oscars.

Pacabel 12y ago

The Carlton Banks character was not a "nerd". He represented a well-to-do/preppy/Ivy League/conservative/Republican/fratboy/"acting white" persona that contradicted with the poor/street-smart/ghetto/cool persona of the Will Smith character. And the Sheldon Cooper character was much more a portrayal of a contemporary obnoxious and vane "hipster" than a "nerd". The two male friend supporting characters were much closer to the "nerd" stereotype.

coldtea 12y ago

>I'd argue that it's precisely because of this decades 'gold rush' that a cultural shift has ensued towards nerds being the new cool. The nerds that (rarely) make it to the cultural spotlight are not the stereotypical nerds. More someone like DHH or some similar guy with charisma. Treating those that made it (and are older too) as special in some dedicated articles, profiles etc, is not unique to our age. It happened with Einstein, Feynman, etc, heck even back to Edison, but it didn't mean nerds had a better time back then. We don't ever see the equivalent of 18-yo Linus Torvalds or Woz, or some awkward introverted nerd as any kind of hero or role model. And I know from experience that most nerdy types had defficient social skills in high school / uni, and most still do outside of it. Do popular people in real life hang around with "Sheldon Cooper" types?