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Just to be clear, these are people with either a BS or a BA in Computer Science, right?

frankdenbow 12y ago
No, this is not the case as I know at least 3 past students in this class that did not have a CS background at all.
gcb0 12y ago
Nope, this is like everyone doing websites in the 90's during the dotcom bubble. All small business trying to find honest people ended up hiring someone's 12yr old cousin (trhu a spiffy LLC front) and ended up with worst-than-useless websites full of security holes and zero accessibility. Hope those projects are all games and fart apps and not mission critical stuff. and since i have a very hard time thinking of mission critical apps, i think the world will endure.
- ForHackernews 12y ago
  As somebody's formerly 12 year old cousin: screw you, my broken PHP was STATE OF THE ART for web dev.
  - gcb0 12y ago
    lol. im the same. but we learned, and here we are. most people just cashed checks and screwed, even if unintentionally, lots of folks
jukay 12y ago
Hi, I'm the founder of the organization. 85% of the class had never written a line of code before. We believe that there are people in Queens and other underserved communities who can learn to code and also pursue tech entrepreneurship.
- kapkapkap 12y ago
  Your quote in the articles says -- "We saw lots of people in the City University of New York system who graduated as computer science majors but weren't going into the tech industry" --- You can't graduate as a CS major without writing any code...So this quote has nothing to do with the people actually in your program?
  - jukay 12y ago
    That quote was part of a longer conversation, it was asking why we saw the need for this. The idea of even students studying CS not having access and opportunities point out the opportunity to open this up to other people in these communities
    - tptacek 12y ago
      I'm confused. Are the people in this story university CS graduates or not? I think you're saying they are NOT, right?
  - Bahamut 12y ago
    I know a former CS PhD student at a top 5 program who never coded before going into industry oddly enough - it's probably possible to focus more on the abstract side, although extremely rare.

No, this is not the case as I know at least 3 past students in this class that did not have a CS background at all.

gcb0 12y ago

Nope, this is like everyone doing websites in the 90's during the dotcom bubble. All small business trying to find honest people ended up hiring someone's 12yr old cousin (trhu a spiffy LLC front) and ended up with worst-than-useless websites full of security holes and zero accessibility. Hope those projects are all games and fart apps and not mission critical stuff. and since i have a very hard time thinking of mission critical apps, i think the world will endure.

ForHackernews 12y ago
As somebody's formerly 12 year old cousin: screw you, my broken PHP was STATE OF THE ART for web dev.
- gcb0 12y ago
  lol. im the same. but we learned, and here we are. most people just cashed checks and screwed, even if unintentionally, lots of folks

jukay 12y ago

Hi, I'm the founder of the organization. 85% of the class had never written a line of code before. We believe that there are people in Queens and other underserved communities who can learn to code and also pursue tech entrepreneurship.

kapkapkap 12y ago
Your quote in the articles says -- "We saw lots of people in the City University of New York system who graduated as computer science majors but weren't going into the tech industry" --- You can't graduate as a CS major without writing any code...So this quote has nothing to do with the people actually in your program?
- jukay 12y ago
  That quote was part of a longer conversation, it was asking why we saw the need for this. The idea of even students studying CS not having access and opportunities point out the opportunity to open this up to other people in these communities
  - tptacek 12y ago
    I'm confused. Are the people in this story university CS graduates or not? I think you're saying they are NOT, right?
- Bahamut 12y ago
  I know a former CS PhD student at a top 5 program who never coded before going into industry oddly enough - it's probably possible to focus more on the abstract side, although extremely rare.