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Without better moderator tools to manage large subreddits they didn't really have an option other than remove all threads seeing how majority of bitcoin, tesla
by nikolak 12y ago
Without better moderator tools to manage large subreddits they didn't really have an option other than remove all threads seeing how majority of bitcoin, tesla etc related stories was not really for /r/technology. Even for that they had to use 3rd party tool.
Just because Tesla Motors is more tech oriented company than its competitors that does not mean every mention of teslas should be posted in /r/technology - and pretty much everything was posted. Same goes for bitcoin related stories.
It also depends on personal interpretation of word "technology", I'm sure that pretty much any topic can be somehow be tied to technology sector but that does not, and should not, mean that every news article about a topic should be posted in /r/technology.
On the other hand the vote brigading that happens from related subreddits is, even though it is against reddit rules, ignored by reddit administrators...
- danford 12y ago>they didn't really have an option other than remove all threads Aw dang, really? No other options except to remove 100% of threads containing the words "snowden" and "national security agency" and "tesla"? It's too bad the community has no way of moderating it's self by somehow giving submissions "scores" to rank them. Then only threads that a majority of people like would make it to the top. If you think about it, a system like this would allow for stories that only partly relate to technology, but are still hot topics that tech enthusiasts want to talk about, to make it to the top.
- minimaxir 12y ago> Then only threads that a majority of people like would make it to the top. That's the problem with social media aggregators. Sometimes the hive mind isn't the best judge of quality. (this happens on all aggregators, including Hacker News itself; that's why having the flag option be so potent in killing threads is necessary).
- nikolak 12y ago>Aw dang, really? No other options except to remove 100% of threads containing the words "snowden" and "national security agency" and "tesla"? No. Either allow the posts and remove them once the discussion start and then deal with 100 "MUH FREEDOM OF SPEECH, !!CENSORSHIP!!, MY PRECIOUS KARMA!" threads or remove them as soon as they're posted. >Then only threads that a majority of people like would make it to the top That's part of the problem. People want to see thread like this - you'd see "NSA spying people" thread upvoted in EVERY SINGLE default subreddit if it was posted and allowed by moderators. Votes are horrible for determining what kind of content should or shouldn't be allowed. Especially for default subreddits since majority of people vote from frontpage and are not familiar with subreddit rules, or don't even notice which subreddit it is. People don't even read more than titles! You'll often see threads marked with "false information" flair, or people pointing out in the comments how the whole story is fake/wrong/etc. Those threads continue to gain upvotes after it has been proved to be wrong information. Do you really think that people would notice the subreddit and/or rules regarding that submission? >If you think about it, a system like this would allow for stories that only partly relate to technology, but are still hot topics that tech enthusiasts want to talk about, to make it to the top. Nope, read above. It would allow for stories people like (upvote) to make it to the top. And plus you have threads linked in other subreddits, IRC etc. that skews up votes too. ____ tl;dr: votes work in theory but fail miserably in practice, especially when dealing with large amount of voters.
- danford 12y agoWhy not have system that allows one or two posts on the front page with certain terms instead of blanket censorship? if (termCountOnFrontPage > 2) remove(); else letItRide();
- nikolak 12y agoIf the 2 items on the frontpage are irrelevant for the subreddit that would make it impossible to post threads which are actually relevant. Relevance of the posts on frontpage is also affected by problems I described above, meaning the thread that shouldn't be posted in /r/technology has (almost) equal chance of being on frontpage as the one that's relevant. I have no idea how to solve the issue, maybe a modqueue like page where moderators can isolate specific threads until they're approved? But just removing all threads if 2 (similar) already exist has too many issues.
- danford 12y agoIt has less issues than removing all threads period imo.