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Actually it seems correct to me to put books and files in the superset called "objects", but not name that superset "files" by itself. Ownership and portabilit
by IpxqwidxG 12y ago
Actually it seems correct to me to put books and files in the superset called "objects", but not name that superset "files" by itself.
Ownership and portability of a book is one thing that becomes relevant when price includes mark up to be paid to own it.
- Turing_Machine 12y ago"Actually it seems correct to me to put books and files in the superset called "objects", but not name that superset "files" by itself." What's different about the stream of bits on a disk that represents a "book" compared to the stream of bits that represents a "file"?
- IpxqwidxG 12y agoTechnically none, even in the physical world! Both files and books are ultimately made up of {Book | Files} < Content < Paper < Trees. But from a consumer point of view, which is extremely important, files and books in the real world are poles apart. So why not treat them such online?
- Turing_Machine 12y ago"Files and books in the real world are poles apart." Specifics?
- Turing_Machine 12y agoI mean, from my POV as a consumer a Kindle book that I can carry around with me is much closer to a physical book than one of your flip books (which appear to require an active internet connection in order to work?)
- IpxqwidxG 12y agoOwning a book is doable online as well. Clone, provide it to the user who bought it. I'm actually still digging this one but "active internet" connection - yes - that's again doable. Localstorage() /something probably? Or wait for a future to be more online.
- IpxqwidxG 12y agoFor example, a school girl yearns for a 'fairy tale book' Elsa, The Snow Princess and not a 'physical file' from Disney Office.
- Turing_Machine 12y agoShe doesn't yearn for "ink stains on paper from a Chinese factory" either, if you want to look at it that way.
- IpxqwidxG 12y agoSo you mean difference between books and files is merely philosophical? Because technically I agree with you that it's only the presentation and nature of 'binding' that makes for all the difference.
- Turing_Machine 12y agoNo, I'm saying that the article is claiming a difference that doesn't actually exist. If it's being transferred over the internet, it's a file. Electronic books are a subset of files, not a disjoint set, just as paper books are a subset of "paper with ink on it".
- IpxqwidxG 12y agoHow does > Electronic books are a subset of files follow from > paper books are a subset of "paper with ink on it" ? I'd argue that paper books are not a subset of paper files, therefore, in online realm also electronic books should NOT be a subset of electronic files. It is a disjoint set by your logic.