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> "Download Comic Neue, free for a limited time" What does that mean? There's no real license information anywhere.

• da4c30ff 12y ago
  An honest question: Isn't it that in some legal systems, an absence of license means public domain?
  • slashdotaccount 12y ago
    Most of the world implemented the Berne Convention, which creates a thing called "copyright". In the world of copyright, absence of license means all rights reserved, except for "fair use", "fair dealing" and similar exceptions. In the world outside copyright law everything is in the public domain, no licenses necessary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention
    • sp332 12y ago
      The Berne Convention didn't invent copyright.
      • schme 12y ago
        I don't think that was ever implied.
        • sp332 12y ago
          Well, you can have copyright without declaring that everything is copyrighted when it is created. A lot of countries had systems like that until they ratified the Berne Convention.
        • dragonwriter 12y ago
          No, it wasn't implied, it was stated outright that the Berne Convention "creates a thing called copyright" (when, in fact, the Berne Convention harmonizes certain provisions of copyright law among those countries who adhere to it.)
  • DrStalker 12y ago
    While I'm sure there is a legal system somewhere in the world that does that most places have automatic rights for intellectual property, even if you give it away for free. Trying to use this font for business would result in compliance issues, because it's unclear what you can and can't do with it.
  • huskyr 12y ago
    Before 1989 the United States required a copyright symbol and year of publishing on every work. After 1989, i don't know of any country that still does this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Copyright_notices_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Copyright_notices_in...
  • __anders__ 12y ago
    AFAIK in USA at least, until 1976 that was the deal. From that year on, everything is copyright by default. This change was because The Night of the Living Dead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Living_Dead#Copyright_status http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Living_Dead#Copyri...
  • Tuna-Fish 12y ago
    It's possible in any of the countries that are gray on this map, but I'm not sure if any of them actually do it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Berne_Convention_signatories.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Berne_Convention_signatori... In general, unless you live in Burma or something, you can assume that if you don't have a license, you can't do anything with any content.
• chrisBob 12y ago
  A normal web page would probably have a link to the license information, but since you can't put links in CSS pages the author just had to make it open source.
  • wut42 12y ago
    what ? this is a normal web page. what do you mean CSS page ?
    • chrisBob 12y ago
      Bootstrap style pages look gorgeous, but don't tend to say anything useful, and I hate it. I know it has nothing to do with CSS, and it is technically possible to have a link to something useful when using a pretty design, but I have yet to see an example. Judging by the 25 (now 26) karma I lost I think a lot of people here really like good looking pages with no links or information.
      • hactually 12y ago
        I don't think you understand bootstrap and how it pertains to HTML and CSS.
      • nollidge 12y ago
        You're losing karma because your complaint has no basis in fact, not because of aesthetic concerns.
  • ceejayoz 12y ago
    What the hell are you on about? There are a variety of links on the page. You can't build a page out of CSS only.
    • dang 12y ago
      > What the hell are you on about? Please don't address other users aggressively on Hacker News. Consider how much better this comment reads if one deletes the first sentence. It goes from being a bad HN comment to a good one immediately.
• rebel 12y ago
  Yeah, that seems like a terrible "license structure". If he added irrevocable I think it would be sufficient for use, but as is I can't understand how you could currently feel safe using it?
• pbhjpbhj 12y ago
  Currently the site says: "No attribution is required, this free version of Comic Neue has been released into the public domain." and links to CC's public domain page at http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ .