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Mozilla now cannot hire a LGBT employee without creating a hostile environment for them. This is a big fucking deal.

by nsmnsf 12y ago

bdcravens 12y ago
Perhaps. But corporate America is filled with tons of leadership that in their private lives go to evangelical Christian churches, many of which oppose gay marriage. In private, those same CEOs probably express similar opinions. The only difference is that BE donated a paltry sum in support of a public law. That's the only issue. Discourse around this will change only one thing: the next time they'll give the money to a cousin to make the donation.
yid 12y ago
> Mozilla now cannot hire a LGBT employee without creating a hostile environment for them. His private donations as an individual have nothing to do with necessarily creating hostile workplace environments.
- joedrew 12y ago
  No, but the hostile workplace environment that's (apparently) already there will probably not be helped by this move. http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1840066.html http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1840066.html Edit: A more descriptive link: http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1761874.html http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1761874.html
  - hft_throwaway 12y ago
    This guy is seriously issuing a "trigger warning" about "legislative violence" for someone not agreeing with his views? Is he a Social Justice Warrior caricature or does he really believe this stuff? I don't see why such content would belong on a company-sponsored blog, but claiming some guy who wants his country to not redefine "marriage" when they already offer civil unions to all is a member of a violent hate group is a bit much.
- Argorak 12y ago
  Which is true - as long as he is not the individual running the show. So "how much will this influence your role as CEO, as the prime manager of all those people?" is a valid question he has to answer to - and well.
- binarycrusader 12y ago
  The views of someone in leadership in a company matter, and even if they're "personal", they will inevitably be taken up by others. So even if it is not directly creating a hostile work environment, it does seems to be encouraging one.
zabraxias 12y ago
Mozilla's leadership is far more complex than the person holding the CEO chalice. Assuming he wanted to impose his personal views on marriage down to the company there would be a revolt and it will result in his termination. The board that elected him ultimately holds more power. On a different note if you knew Brandan you'd know that he would never steer the company in such a direction. My only regret is that he will likely resign after his turn at the throne is over. Hopefully he will choose to stick around as a board member.

Mozilla now cannot hire a LGBT employee without creating a hostile environment for them. This is a big fucking deal.

by nsmnsf 12y ago

Mozilla now cannot hire a LGBT employee without creating a hostile environment for them. This is a big fucking deal.

Perhaps. But corporate America is filled with tons of leadership that in their private lives go to evangelical Christian churches, many of which oppose gay marriage. In private, those same CEOs probably express similar opinions. The only difference is that BE donated a paltry sum in support of a public law. That's the only issue. Discourse around this will change only one thing: the next time they'll give the money to a cousin to make the donation.

yid 12y ago

> Mozilla now cannot hire a LGBT employee without creating a hostile environment for them. His private donations as an individual have nothing to do with necessarily creating hostile workplace environments.

joedrew 12y ago
No, but the hostile workplace environment that's (apparently) already there will probably not be helped by this move. http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1840066.html http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1840066.html Edit: A more descriptive link: http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1761874.html http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1761874.html
- hft_throwaway 12y ago
  This guy is seriously issuing a "trigger warning" about "legislative violence" for someone not agreeing with his views? Is he a Social Justice Warrior caricature or does he really believe this stuff? I don't see why such content would belong on a company-sponsored blog, but claiming some guy who wants his country to not redefine "marriage" when they already offer civil unions to all is a member of a violent hate group is a bit much.
Argorak 12y ago
Which is true - as long as he is not the individual running the show. So "how much will this influence your role as CEO, as the prime manager of all those people?" is a valid question he has to answer to - and well.
binarycrusader 12y ago
The views of someone in leadership in a company matter, and even if they're "personal", they will inevitably be taken up by others. So even if it is not directly creating a hostile work environment, it does seems to be encouraging one.

zabraxias 12y ago

Mozilla's leadership is far more complex than the person holding the CEO chalice. Assuming he wanted to impose his personal views on marriage down to the company there would be a revolt and it will result in his termination. The board that elected him ultimately holds more power. On a different note if you knew Brandan you'd know that he would never steer the company in such a direction. My only regret is that he will likely resign after his turn at the throne is over. Hopefully he will choose to stick around as a board member.