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How does the free software movement live in a capitalistic society? I'd be all for writing and contributing to free software if I could make a living off it. Bu

by bdicasa 13y ago

How does the free software movement live in a capitalistic society? I'd be all for writing and contributing to free software if I could make a living off it. But I need to make a living, and that likely isn't coming from writing free software. I charge for my software because I want the freedom to choose what I create, rather than just pounding out code for someone else to make a profit from.

chriswarbo 13y ago
> How does the free software movement live in a capitalistic society? One obvious way is to sell Free Software. The market has raced to the bottom recently, but a while ago a lot of GNU development was funded by Free Software sales. Compare this to proprietary software, which can't operate in a capitalistic society. It relies on government interference in the software market to create an artificial scarcity (ie. copyright).
- bdicasa 13y ago
  How does one sell free software?
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  > Compare this to proprietary software, which can't operate in a capitalistic society. Er, what? > It relies on government interference in the software market to create an artificial scarcity (ie. copyright). Capitalistic society relies on government involvement in the market to create property rights; among the property rights that were features of the systems for which the term "capitalism" was coined is copyright. So, to say that proprietary software cannot exist because it relies on government for the system of property rights that underlie it is a gross misunderstanding of "capitalism".
einhverfr 13y ago
> How does the free software movement live in a capitalistic society? Define "capitalistic." If you mean free market there are all kinds of ways it can live. If you mean investor-backed corporations, then the answer is dual-licensing.
dragonwriter 13y ago
> How does the free software movement live in a capitalistic society? Quite well. Which is why so many for-profit corporations release F/OSS. > I'd be all for writing and contributing to free software if I could make a living off it. People do -- by selling their expertise with the software, or selling solutions in which the software is an enabling component.
- bdicasa 13y ago
  I understand this model, but with some software there is no obvious model for selling solutions beside the software. A lot of times the software is the solution.

by bdicasa 13y ago

chriswarbo 13y ago

> How does the free software movement live in a capitalistic society? One obvious way is to sell Free Software. The market has raced to the bottom recently, but a while ago a lot of GNU development was funded by Free Software sales. Compare this to proprietary software, which can't operate in a capitalistic society. It relies on government interference in the software market to create an artificial scarcity (ie. copyright).

bdicasa 13y ago
How does one sell free software?
dragonwriter 13y ago
> Compare this to proprietary software, which can't operate in a capitalistic society. Er, what? > It relies on government interference in the software market to create an artificial scarcity (ie. copyright). Capitalistic society relies on government involvement in the market to create property rights; among the property rights that were features of the systems for which the term "capitalism" was coined is copyright. So, to say that proprietary software cannot exist because it relies on government for the system of property rights that underlie it is a gross misunderstanding of "capitalism".

einhverfr 13y ago

> How does the free software movement live in a capitalistic society? Define "capitalistic." If you mean free market there are all kinds of ways it can live. If you mean investor-backed corporations, then the answer is dual-licensing.

dragonwriter 13y ago

> How does the free software movement live in a capitalistic society? Quite well. Which is why so many for-profit corporations release F/OSS. > I'd be all for writing and contributing to free software if I could make a living off it. People do -- by selling their expertise with the software, or selling solutions in which the software is an enabling component.

bdicasa 13y ago
I understand this model, but with some software there is no obvious model for selling solutions beside the software. A lot of times the software is the solution.