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Plane watches already do this. They have even outed CIA operations. I wonder how the Government would like it if many hobbyists sat in front of the NSA car par

Plane watches already do this. They have even outed CIA operations. I wonder how the Government would like it if many hobbyists sat in front of the NSA car park and started writing down every license plate and put them on a searchable database. Now this is a project I would fund. Kickstarter anyone?

midas007 13y ago
Interesting. Got a reference to that CIA incident?
- markvdb 13y ago
  There's quite a pile of information on CIA rendition flights. They seem to have used EU member states air space [1][2]. The Washington Post suggests there was at least some journalistic field work plane spotting in the US [3]. [1] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jan/23/usa.eu http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jan/23/usa.eu [2] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/20120709IPR48490/html/CIA-flights-EU-states-must-investigate-secret-detention-sites-in-Europe http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/2012... [3] http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ten-years-later-cia-rendition-program-still-divides-nc-town/2012/01/23/gIQAwrAU2Q_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ten-ye...
  - midas007 13y ago
    Nice. Thanks. I'm wondering if anyone is working on an app like Metadata for CIA renditions. Basically to to track when someone just disappears, because it's not like they got a day in court before they were tortured and/or murdered.
- dalke 13y ago
  Google "plane watching CIA". Second hit: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/dec/10/usa.terrorism1 http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/dec/10/usa.terrorism1 : How planespotters turned into the scourge of the CIA
- dispense 13y ago
  There was an entertaining lecture about it this (and other stuff) at the 30C3: http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282300_-_seeing_the_secret_state_six_landscapes_-_trevor_paglen.html http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_...

midas007 13y ago

Interesting. Got a reference to that CIA incident?

markvdb 13y ago
There's quite a pile of information on CIA rendition flights. They seem to have used EU member states air space [1][2]. The Washington Post suggests there was at least some journalistic field work plane spotting in the US [3]. [1] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jan/23/usa.eu http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jan/23/usa.eu [2] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/20120709IPR48490/html/CIA-flights-EU-states-must-investigate-secret-detention-sites-in-Europe http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/2012... [3] http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ten-years-later-cia-rendition-program-still-divides-nc-town/2012/01/23/gIQAwrAU2Q_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ten-ye...
- midas007 13y ago
  Nice. Thanks. I'm wondering if anyone is working on an app like Metadata for CIA renditions. Basically to to track when someone just disappears, because it's not like they got a day in court before they were tortured and/or murdered.
dalke 13y ago
Google "plane watching CIA". Second hit: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/dec/10/usa.terrorism1 http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/dec/10/usa.terrorism1 : How planespotters turned into the scourge of the CIA
dispense 13y ago
There was an entertaining lecture about it this (and other stuff) at the 30C3: http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282300_-_seeing_the_secret_state_six_landscapes_-_trevor_paglen.html http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_...