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Getting mad at people having harmless fun isn't normal, but on feminism it is...

• leccine 13y ago
  Yep. I think raging at people having fun does not support gender equality at all, it does the quite opposite.
• comrh 13y ago
  Yeah, rage against feminism... the radical notion that women are people.
  • vezzy-fnord 13y ago
    It's nice to see you can make use of stock quotes that are completely distant from reality.
    • comrh 13y ago
      That's a definition of feminism and exposes how the term is completely pointless to use to attack people because of how vague the definition is.
  • tw268 13y ago
    Feminism is a cultural Marxist ideology which tries to explain the world through the lens of class conflict - an overclass (male) which is oppressive and therefore evil and an underclass (female) which is oppressed and therefore good. This is why it is not considered oppression when men die young or go to prison more often than women and it is not a problem when men are underrepresented in higher ed - men can't be oppressed by definition. In a perfectly fair world, men and women would behave differently due to comparative advantage and specialization based on sexual dimorphism. Feminism, in seeking an equal world, denies reality and quite a bit of science. Also, like most Marx-derived groups, feminists are humorless killjoys
    • sp332 13y ago
      The word "feminism" describes a lot more that just that one ideology. There are lots of feminist movements and "agendas" and the only thing they have in common is advocating equality for women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
      • ps4fanboy 13y ago
        This "feminism can be anything" stance is getting really old, is it really everything good and nothing bad?
        • sp332 13y ago
          I don't see Horvath, or anyone else in this conversation, using tw268's definition of feminism. That's why it's misleading for this conversation. Horvath is criticizing her own feminist framework, so obviously it's not all good.
        • arrrg 13y ago
          Oh, I’m so very sorry that you have to do a tiny bit more work and find out specifically what someone stands for before you can coherently argue against them instead of slapping the feminist label on it and being done with it. First, I would suggest that when you attack feminism in the abstract, you attack views that are actually currently and widely held by feminists. It’s a diverse movement, but there are actual mainstream views. Frequently even that will not be very helpful, so you will have to find out specifically which group of people you are addressing with your criticism. If feminists can and do frequently criticise feminist views then so can you. In that regard feminism is kind of like, say, conservatism or liberalism or socialism or nationalism. Now, I myself do not have a problem with chucking even big and complex concepts like that on the trash heap of history if they actually do have a consistently disastrous history. You won’t find me putting much work into arguing against fascism or royalism or racism or antisemitism. I’m willing to dismiss those wholesale. Feminism, whatever its faults may be in your view, is about a million miles away from clearing that, however. It’s absurd to even think it could approach that same standard of wholesale dismissal. It has no history of harm at all.
  • ebfe 13y ago
    Fun fact: White Nationalists define themselves as a movement to end the genocide of white people. Therefore, if you oppose White Nationalism, you support the genocide of white people. That's how definitions work, right?