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This isn't about UEFI, I've had no issues with it. Primarily because I don't use Windows on it. Microsoft is up to it's old tricks here. Then again, try to r

by codelap 13y ago

This isn't about UEFI, I've had no issues with it. Primarily because I don't use Windows on it. Microsoft is up to it's old tricks here. Then again, try to run OSX on a Dell. I just wish all these guys would get their heads out of there asses.

pritambaral 13y ago
> try to run OSX on a Dell I don't get what you're trying to say here, so pardon me if this response is totally orthogonal to your point. OS X isn't supposed to be run on PC's (laptop+desktop). Nor is it expected. Desktop Linux, however, is.
- rjbwork 13y ago
  Except that OSX does run on PC's. The architectures are identical now. My MacBook Pro can run windows natively because it is an x86/x64 architecture from the ground up.
  - pfraze 13y ago
    Yeah, it's called the Hackintosh
  - deleted 13y ago
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  - pritambaral 13y ago
    I am aware of the architecture of Mac hardware. But OS X doesn't have driver (thus hardware) support for all (or even a large range of) hardware that conform to the architecture. Apple develops (espcially when it comes to optimizations) OS X expressly for it's own selection of (as opposed to general purpose) hardware. Apple also goes so far as to actively try to prevent OS X running on non-Mac hardware[0]. Contrast this with Linux, *BSDs that are developed on and for a wide range of (and general purpose) hardware. [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93Intel_architecture#Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X.kext http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93Intel_architectur...
    - codelap 13y ago
      If there wasn't a legal constraint, then hardware manufacturers and the community would make those drivers.
- codelap 13y ago
  Supposed to because Apple makes it hard, not because of any technical requirements.
  - pritambaral 13y ago
    > technical requirements. Except when OS X doesn't have drivers for your hardware... For a less snarky remark, please read my response to a similar, sibling comment.
witty_username 13y ago
True. I have a computer with no OS and UEFI and there were zero problems installing Linux. UEFI!=Secure boot

by codelap 13y ago

pritambaral 13y ago

> try to run OSX on a Dell I don't get what you're trying to say here, so pardon me if this response is totally orthogonal to your point. OS X isn't supposed to be run on PC's (laptop+desktop). Nor is it expected. Desktop Linux, however, is.

rjbwork 13y ago
Except that OSX does run on PC's. The architectures are identical now. My MacBook Pro can run windows natively because it is an x86/x64 architecture from the ground up.
- pfraze 13y ago
  Yeah, it's called the Hackintosh
- deleted 13y ago
  [deleted]
- pritambaral 13y ago
  I am aware of the architecture of Mac hardware. But OS X doesn't have driver (thus hardware) support for all (or even a large range of) hardware that conform to the architecture. Apple develops (espcially when it comes to optimizations) OS X expressly for it's own selection of (as opposed to general purpose) hardware. Apple also goes so far as to actively try to prevent OS X running on non-Mac hardware[0]. Contrast this with Linux, *BSDs that are developed on and for a wide range of (and general purpose) hardware. [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93Intel_architecture#Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X.kext http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93Intel_architectur...
  - codelap 13y ago
    If there wasn't a legal constraint, then hardware manufacturers and the community would make those drivers.
codelap 13y ago
Supposed to because Apple makes it hard, not because of any technical requirements.
- pritambaral 13y ago
  > technical requirements. Except when OS X doesn't have drivers for your hardware... For a less snarky remark, please read my response to a similar, sibling comment.

witty_username 13y ago

True. I have a computer with no OS and UEFI and there were zero problems installing Linux. UEFI!=Secure boot