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CentOS Administrator Reappears

29 points by mariana 17y ago

shard 17y ago
Where are the details!?! I want to know why he went AWOL for so long, and what kind of agreements were reached regarding the centos funds and domain. =P
- tsally 17y ago
  I'd like to know why he went missing for so long as well, but it's hardly our business now is it? ;)
- mapleoin 17y ago
  this isn't a soap opera. It's their business, even if they decided to make part of the thing public.
  - rdtsc 17y ago
    And my business is my business. We used to use CentOS and now we switched to another open build of RHEL. I have nothing against them, they all seem to be great guys, I would have a beer with them. But the image of the project as a whole has suffered, and because of a lack of perceived stability and reliability we decided to switch.
    - Elepsis 17y ago
      If you don't mind sharing, what did you switch to?
      - rdtsc 17y ago
        Scientific Linux (http://www.scientificlinux.org/ http://www.scientificlinux.org/), it's maintained by Fermilab and CERN.
    - ErrantX 17y ago
      that's the risk you take for using a community (ish) / volunteer developed OS. I always recommend Fedora - because they have Red Hat upstream so it's enterprisey but still the same sort of community :)
      - rdtsc 17y ago
        I hear you. I would rather choose Ubuntu, but we have to be compatible with RHEL since we have to ship our product on it. We need all the dev boxes running something binary and library-level compatible with it, and then it is easier to have all our servers on same architecture as well.
      - mapleoin 17y ago
        Red Hat is actually downstream from Fedora. Red Hat takes a Fedora release once every two years and makes it into a RHEL.
        ErrantX 17y ago
        yeh sorry I realised this after posting. thanks for the correction (I think my point still stands, I dont know).
dpcan 17y ago
I already panicked and started the move of one of our servers over to Ubuntu Hardy. I'm worried for CentOS, continuing this saga with an open letter and a picture of a possibly stubborn leader is going to hurt. I think it's time to go tight lipped, have a conference call, hash it out and make things right. Then make an announcement about all the GREAT things that came out of the call and how CentOS is on the verge of greatness with its new found community guidelines. But programmers are not PR or Marketing guys usually, we're quite sensitive about our work, so I'm leery this will just turn into a public mud slinging battle.
- whirlycott1 17y ago
  You panicked and started a migration because you didn't have the patience to wait a few days to see what happens?
- jonursenbach 17y ago
  Really? You really migrated servers over to another distro within a few days of hearing the the project manager had gone AWOL? You do realise that you can stick with the same distro forever and just patch all of your packages manually, don't you?
  - dpcan 17y ago
    A few hours actually. It was just 1 server. I'm sorry if it looked like I said more. I do patch manually already. If there are two ships going out to sea, and the ship where I've already loaded my luggage all of a sudden has crew members running around screaming "where's the captain, where's the captain, he's been gone for months." You know.... I'm just going to take my bags and put them on the other ship and not worry about it anymore. I don't need any more stress in my life, there's already PLENTY of that.
castis 17y ago
question. does the CentOS admin make any money?
- ArcticCelt 17y ago
  This post tells a bit about it. Basically that all the donation and ad revenue are unaccounted for. I certainly wont donate a cent (pun highly intended) until this is cleared up. http://dag.wieers.com/blog/the-burden-of-keeping-things-private http://dag.wieers.com/blog/the-burden-of-keeping-things-priv...
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Wow. That should have come out a long time ago. A good time for all open source projects out there to become accountable about their donations. And to stop donating to those that are not accountable.
  - alain94040 17y ago
    Funny how it puts this other post today on HN in perspective. Something about trust and keeping things foolish: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=736522 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=736522
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29 points by mariana 17y ago

shard 17y ago

Where are the details!?! I want to know why he went AWOL for so long, and what kind of agreements were reached regarding the centos funds and domain. =P

tsally 17y ago
I'd like to know why he went missing for so long as well, but it's hardly our business now is it? ;)
mapleoin 17y ago
this isn't a soap opera. It's their business, even if they decided to make part of the thing public.
- rdtsc 17y ago
  And my business is my business. We used to use CentOS and now we switched to another open build of RHEL. I have nothing against them, they all seem to be great guys, I would have a beer with them. But the image of the project as a whole has suffered, and because of a lack of perceived stability and reliability we decided to switch.
  - Elepsis 17y ago
    If you don't mind sharing, what did you switch to?
    - rdtsc 17y ago
      Scientific Linux (http://www.scientificlinux.org/ http://www.scientificlinux.org/), it's maintained by Fermilab and CERN.
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    that's the risk you take for using a community (ish) / volunteer developed OS. I always recommend Fedora - because they have Red Hat upstream so it's enterprisey but still the same sort of community :)
    - rdtsc 17y ago
      I hear you. I would rather choose Ubuntu, but we have to be compatible with RHEL since we have to ship our product on it. We need all the dev boxes running something binary and library-level compatible with it, and then it is easier to have all our servers on same architecture as well.
    - mapleoin 17y ago
      Red Hat is actually downstream from Fedora. Red Hat takes a Fedora release once every two years and makes it into a RHEL.
      - ErrantX 17y ago
        yeh sorry I realised this after posting. thanks for the correction (I think my point still stands, I dont know).

dpcan 17y ago

I already panicked and started the move of one of our servers over to Ubuntu Hardy. I'm worried for CentOS, continuing this saga with an open letter and a picture of a possibly stubborn leader is going to hurt. I think it's time to go tight lipped, have a conference call, hash it out and make things right. Then make an announcement about all the GREAT things that came out of the call and how CentOS is on the verge of greatness with its new found community guidelines. But programmers are not PR or Marketing guys usually, we're quite sensitive about our work, so I'm leery this will just turn into a public mud slinging battle.

whirlycott1 17y ago
You panicked and started a migration because you didn't have the patience to wait a few days to see what happens?
jonursenbach 17y ago
Really? You really migrated servers over to another distro within a few days of hearing the the project manager had gone AWOL? You do realise that you can stick with the same distro forever and just patch all of your packages manually, don't you?
- dpcan 17y ago
  A few hours actually. It was just 1 server. I'm sorry if it looked like I said more. I do patch manually already. If there are two ships going out to sea, and the ship where I've already loaded my luggage all of a sudden has crew members running around screaming "where's the captain, where's the captain, he's been gone for months." You know.... I'm just going to take my bags and put them on the other ship and not worry about it anymore. I don't need any more stress in my life, there's already PLENTY of that.

castis 17y ago

question. does the CentOS admin make any money?

ArcticCelt 17y ago
This post tells a bit about it. Basically that all the donation and ad revenue are unaccounted for. I certainly wont donate a cent (pun highly intended) until this is cleared up. http://dag.wieers.com/blog/the-burden-of-keeping-things-private http://dag.wieers.com/blog/the-burden-of-keeping-things-priv...
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Wow. That should have come out a long time ago. A good time for all open source projects out there to become accountable about their donations. And to stop donating to those that are not accountable.
- alain94040 17y ago
  Funny how it puts this other post today on HN in perspective. Something about trust and keeping things foolish: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=736522 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=736522

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