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This is not a Facebook problem. It's a problem with how YOU are running Facebook ads.

annnnd 13y ago
This IS a Facebook problem. Whether they are not doing their job properly or customers have problems understanding their platform. But whatever it is, it still affects FB directly, so of course it's their problem.
- raymondduke 13y ago
  No, it's not. This is as much of a Facebook problem as it is Google's problem that people send SPAM to people on the internet. This guy doesn't know how to market. People think that advertising is a magic button that you push and you get results. Hilarious.
  - dasil003 13y ago
    And let me guess... you get great results with your Facebook campaigns? My marketing teams have spent a lot of time with a variety of advertising campaigns. The Facebook has always been by far the worst, an order of magnitude worse than everything else we tried even though it's supposed to have greater targeting ability. Snarky comments on HN aren't going to make me believe that Facebook advertising is anything but overpriced and overhyped. Please present your evidence instead of assuming everyone is an idiot.
    - raymondduke 13y ago
      I'm not here to make you believe anything. Do what's working for you. If Facebook ads are not working for you, stop using them, or seek the help of someone more qualified than you and your team.
      - dasil003 13y ago
        > I'm not here to make you believe anything. Then what are you here to do? Just write unsubstantiated snarky comments about how much of an idiot everyone but you is?
        raymondduke 13y ago
        Just expressing my frustration about this whole thing.
    - raymondduke 13y ago
      Here is an accurate response: http://www.jonloomer.com/2014/02/11/facebook-fraud-response/ http://www.jonloomer.com/2014/02/11/facebook-fraud-response/
      - Moru 13y ago
        Yeah, a facebook employee complaining that he didn't use enough money to promote the fake pages. Also complaining that he is using facebook wrong and should know better. I was expecting facebook to know better than to leave old tools that does not work lying around just because they make good money out of them? No wait, I wasn't.
  - mikle 13y ago
    But SPAM is Google's problem and they are devoting a lot of resources to stopping it. Not to say it is exclusively Google's problem or Google's only/biggest problem.

This IS a Facebook problem. Whether they are not doing their job properly or customers have problems understanding their platform. But whatever it is, it still affects FB directly, so of course it's their problem.

raymondduke 13y ago
No, it's not. This is as much of a Facebook problem as it is Google's problem that people send SPAM to people on the internet. This guy doesn't know how to market. People think that advertising is a magic button that you push and you get results. Hilarious.
- dasil003 13y ago
  And let me guess... you get great results with your Facebook campaigns? My marketing teams have spent a lot of time with a variety of advertising campaigns. The Facebook has always been by far the worst, an order of magnitude worse than everything else we tried even though it's supposed to have greater targeting ability. Snarky comments on HN aren't going to make me believe that Facebook advertising is anything but overpriced and overhyped. Please present your evidence instead of assuming everyone is an idiot.
  - raymondduke 13y ago
    I'm not here to make you believe anything. Do what's working for you. If Facebook ads are not working for you, stop using them, or seek the help of someone more qualified than you and your team.
    - dasil003 13y ago
      > I'm not here to make you believe anything. Then what are you here to do? Just write unsubstantiated snarky comments about how much of an idiot everyone but you is?
      - raymondduke 13y ago
        Just expressing my frustration about this whole thing.
  - raymondduke 13y ago
    Here is an accurate response: http://www.jonloomer.com/2014/02/11/facebook-fraud-response/ http://www.jonloomer.com/2014/02/11/facebook-fraud-response/
    - Moru 13y ago
      Yeah, a facebook employee complaining that he didn't use enough money to promote the fake pages. Also complaining that he is using facebook wrong and should know better. I was expecting facebook to know better than to leave old tools that does not work lying around just because they make good money out of them? No wait, I wasn't.
- mikle 13y ago
  But SPAM is Google's problem and they are devoting a lot of resources to stopping it. Not to say it is exclusively Google's problem or Google's only/biggest problem.