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Not sure how I feel about this. I think we need to move away from the idea of "let's write this in PHP because it's easy." Best of luck to you though...
by joshfinnie 13y ago
Not sure how I feel about this. I think we need to move away from the idea of "let's write this in PHP because it's easy." Best of luck to you though...
- paulgb 13y agoI think the sentiment is more "let's write this in PHP because it runs on every $7 shared web host on the planet". Sadly, no other language can claim this except maybe Perl.
- neverminder 13y agoWell then it's catch 22 isn't it? Unless we boycott PHP it will never go away and hosting providers won't have any incentive to change.
- RossM 13y agoI think you'd have better luck in making ways of supporting drag-and-drop deployment for your preferred languages. I can't find it now but there was such a tool for Python that allowed you to run Python scripts in the same way as PHP (no app server as such).
- asdasf 13y agoI don't understand why that is still something people care about in the days of $5 VPS hosting.
- noir_lord 13y agoI think it's because there are lots of PHP programmers who don't have the first clue about setting up an actual server on the internet (and keeping it up). On top of that there is the time investment in learning all that stuff and doing it on a regular basis. To some that makes "here are your FTP credentials, have at it". ---- It's simply one end of a spectrum with DevOps towards the other end.
- scarecrowbob 13y agoI agree. I do a lot of wordpress work, and many of the people doing that have no idea what the command line looks like. I don't fault them for it-- that's just what their jobs/business have so far demanded of them. And while I have setup VPSs for my own projects and they seem to do okay, I've never had to be responsible for a machine that serves other people, and I don't know if I want to be the only guy who has access to a machine that other people rely on to do their business: there are a world of unknown unknowns there, and if I can offload that liability its probably the wiser move.
- jqueryin 13y agoBad generalization. There's plenty of developers in general that know nothing of devops and server setup and maintenance. I put it on par with frontend developers who don't know how to slice up a PSD.
- asdasf 13y ago>I think it's because there are lots of PHP programmers who don't have the first clue about setting up an actual server on the internet (and keeping it up). Well PHP programmers are going to want to use PHP anyways. But as far as users not knowing how to setup a server, that's true. But it is also irrelevant. Tons of people provide tons of different VM images for all sorts of things, node included. At that point it is no harder than PHP, with the added benefit of not needing to upgrade PHP every 2 weeks for the latest round of security holes.
- bliker 13y agoI would say more like $2
- korzun 13y agoYou are the only one who thinks writing stuff in PHP is 'magically' easy. Let's see your complex PHP projects.