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Windows Phone is outselling the iPhone in 24 countries

7 points by gdltec 13y ago

kirtijthorat 13y ago
And there are over 170 countries... Also, when it comes to smartphones it's the western world and particularly US mkt. is what counts. If your product rocks in this mkt. then you have a chance. Look at Samsung how badly they need US mkt.
- pedalpete 13y ago
  Only people in the US think the US is the market that counts. You need to open your eyes and realize there is a world full of people making money in and outside the US. Think how your argument would apply to Xiaomi. They are absolutely killing it in China (I'm assuming they aren't in the US market), but one day they are going to turn their attention to the US and quite possibly dominate, like they have in China. Also, don't forget, there was a time when Android was the 2nd platform to Apple in the US.
profquail 13y ago
Link to the actual article, to bypass the blogspam: http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/01/21/here-are-24-countries-where-windows-phone-outsells-the-iphone-and-why-it-does/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/01/21/here-are-...
- gdltec 13y ago
  blogspam? I personally curate articles that I think are interesting and add some commentary sometimes. If providing a summary and a link to the original article is blogspam then I guess hackernews also qualifies as one - based on your poor point of view.
  - JazCE 13y ago
    This is blogspam, you're trying to pull people to your personal blog, where you've written a paragraph (least amount of effort) with a copy and paste of a few paragraphs from the original article.
    - gdltec 13y ago
      Correct. So most online blogs that "recap" news do the same correct? Would you agree then that Marco and Daring Fireball are spam as well? if not, please tell what is different?
      - JazCE 13y ago
        (disclaimer, I work for a news agency) I would agree that anything that recaps a news article/press release without adding significant analysis would just be blogspam. By all means link to your blog if you're adding more than a paragraph of thought on the original subject, if not, link to the original article. But hey, HN is a democratic site, so y'know, whatevs.
      - deleted 13y ago
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      - manicdee 13y ago
        Show me where Mr Gruber (Daring Fireball) simply quotes the entirety of an article rather than making a (short) comment about it, perhaps quoting an interesting paragraph or two and linking to the article in its original location? DF certainly does not run the entire article. You may also want to re-read the dictionary definition of "recap" and understand the difference between "recap" and "republish." What you are doing is on the same level as Huffington Post: quote the entire article so people come to your site, view the ads on your site, and never need to visit the source (though at least you link to the source unlike HP).
    - gdltec 13y ago
      Seriously, think of techmeme as well... doing exactly the same - blogspam? http://www.techmeme.com/ http://www.techmeme.com/
  - profquail 13y ago
    I don't know about the rest of your site, but in this particular case, nearly all of the content you provided on your site related to this article was lifted directly from the article itself. If you'd written a thorough analysis of the article, perhaps using data to back up/refute it's claims, that would merit reading on it's own merits. That's not the case here though, so I'd prefer to read the article itself.
smackfu 13y ago
Note that this is a battle for distant second place. Places where Windows Phone is getting 5% and iPhone is getting 4% and Android is getting 85%.
- thedrbrian 13y ago
  And yet samsung profits just took a dive and every other android maker is in the red.
jsmith0295 13y ago
Though it is important to note that the iPhone is generally in a different category of more expensive smartphones than many Android/Windows Phone devices. In terms of just devices in that price range, the iPhone tends to do very well basically everywhere that it is sold and has good carrier support.

7 points by gdltec 13y ago

And there are over 170 countries... Also, when it comes to smartphones it's the western world and particularly US mkt. is what counts. If your product rocks in this mkt. then you have a chance. Look at Samsung how badly they need US mkt.

pedalpete 13y ago
Only people in the US think the US is the market that counts. You need to open your eyes and realize there is a world full of people making money in and outside the US. Think how your argument would apply to Xiaomi. They are absolutely killing it in China (I'm assuming they aren't in the US market), but one day they are going to turn their attention to the US and quite possibly dominate, like they have in China. Also, don't forget, there was a time when Android was the 2nd platform to Apple in the US.

profquail 13y ago

Link to the actual article, to bypass the blogspam: http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/01/21/here-are-24-countries-where-windows-phone-outsells-the-iphone-and-why-it-does/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/01/21/here-are-...

gdltec 13y ago
blogspam? I personally curate articles that I think are interesting and add some commentary sometimes. If providing a summary and a link to the original article is blogspam then I guess hackernews also qualifies as one - based on your poor point of view.
- JazCE 13y ago
  This is blogspam, you're trying to pull people to your personal blog, where you've written a paragraph (least amount of effort) with a copy and paste of a few paragraphs from the original article.
  - gdltec 13y ago
    Correct. So most online blogs that "recap" news do the same correct? Would you agree then that Marco and Daring Fireball are spam as well? if not, please tell what is different?
    - JazCE 13y ago
      (disclaimer, I work for a news agency) I would agree that anything that recaps a news article/press release without adding significant analysis would just be blogspam. By all means link to your blog if you're adding more than a paragraph of thought on the original subject, if not, link to the original article. But hey, HN is a democratic site, so y'know, whatevs.
    - deleted 13y ago
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    - manicdee 13y ago
      Show me where Mr Gruber (Daring Fireball) simply quotes the entirety of an article rather than making a (short) comment about it, perhaps quoting an interesting paragraph or two and linking to the article in its original location? DF certainly does not run the entire article. You may also want to re-read the dictionary definition of "recap" and understand the difference between "recap" and "republish." What you are doing is on the same level as Huffington Post: quote the entire article so people come to your site, view the ads on your site, and never need to visit the source (though at least you link to the source unlike HP).
  - gdltec 13y ago
    Seriously, think of techmeme as well... doing exactly the same - blogspam? http://www.techmeme.com/ http://www.techmeme.com/
- profquail 13y ago
  I don't know about the rest of your site, but in this particular case, nearly all of the content you provided on your site related to this article was lifted directly from the article itself. If you'd written a thorough analysis of the article, perhaps using data to back up/refute it's claims, that would merit reading on it's own merits. That's not the case here though, so I'd prefer to read the article itself.

smackfu 13y ago

Note that this is a battle for distant second place. Places where Windows Phone is getting 5% and iPhone is getting 4% and Android is getting 85%.

thedrbrian 13y ago
And yet samsung profits just took a dive and every other android maker is in the red.

jsmith0295 13y ago

Though it is important to note that the iPhone is generally in a different category of more expensive smartphones than many Android/Windows Phone devices. In terms of just devices in that price range, the iPhone tends to do very well basically everywhere that it is sold and has good carrier support.