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Yeah, let's just get it over with and say he basically raped her. Let's increase the counter for "women get raped in public all the time" up by one. After all,

Yeah, let's just get it over with and say he basically raped her. Let's increase the counter for "women get raped in public all the time" up by one. After all, even if he didn't rape her, the psychological damage was the same, so it counts. Also, let's put that guy in jail for rape.

clavalle 13y ago
No. Let's keep words meaning what they mean. But we can say this guy violated her space and insulted her dignity and acted in a way that would make most people cringe if not shun the guy. I wouldn't trust him after seeing him display that behavior. Would you?
- throwawaycoder 13y ago
  "I wouldn't trust him after seeing him display that behavior. Would you?" Of course I wouldn't. Neither would most people in the Bitcoin community. Nevertheless, now we have "this is how women are being treated at Bitcoin meetups". Btw not only would I not trust him, I also wouldn't like him.
  - clavalle 13y ago
    In that case, your comment is misplaced. I don't think this guy represents any group of people either. I was commenting on why the woman might be justified in worrying about a physical attack if she embarrassed the creep because he obviously doesn't have much in the way of boundaries.
    - throwawaycoder 13y ago
      Sorry, I probably really misread you. I also read the article again and personally I don't think the situation sounds that threatening - there were a whole bunch of people there, including a good male friend. Nevertheless, "she could have said something" is of course not an excuse for rude behavior. I wouldn't want to excuse his behavior. As I said, if I knew him, I probably wouldn't like him much and certainly wouldn't encourage him to attend further meetups.
      - clavalle 13y ago
        Ok. I am a big, intimidating looking guy (or so I've been told). Next time I see you, how about I just go ahead and put my hand on your waist, lead you to a chair, sit you down next to me than put my hand on your leg while saying shitty things about whatever group you might identify. Then we'll see how you feel about the situation. Could you even imagine such a thing?
        throwawaycoder 13y ago
        I don't know what you are going on about? Did I claim it is pleasant? Nevertheless it would be nice to meet you and do the experiment. One thing: I can't imagine I would remain sitting next to you.

clavalle 13y ago

No. Let's keep words meaning what they mean. But we can say this guy violated her space and insulted her dignity and acted in a way that would make most people cringe if not shun the guy. I wouldn't trust him after seeing him display that behavior. Would you?

throwawaycoder 13y ago
"I wouldn't trust him after seeing him display that behavior. Would you?" Of course I wouldn't. Neither would most people in the Bitcoin community. Nevertheless, now we have "this is how women are being treated at Bitcoin meetups". Btw not only would I not trust him, I also wouldn't like him.
- clavalle 13y ago
  In that case, your comment is misplaced. I don't think this guy represents any group of people either. I was commenting on why the woman might be justified in worrying about a physical attack if she embarrassed the creep because he obviously doesn't have much in the way of boundaries.
  - throwawaycoder 13y ago
    Sorry, I probably really misread you. I also read the article again and personally I don't think the situation sounds that threatening - there were a whole bunch of people there, including a good male friend. Nevertheless, "she could have said something" is of course not an excuse for rude behavior. I wouldn't want to excuse his behavior. As I said, if I knew him, I probably wouldn't like him much and certainly wouldn't encourage him to attend further meetups.
    - clavalle 13y ago
      Ok. I am a big, intimidating looking guy (or so I've been told). Next time I see you, how about I just go ahead and put my hand on your waist, lead you to a chair, sit you down next to me than put my hand on your leg while saying shitty things about whatever group you might identify. Then we'll see how you feel about the situation. Could you even imagine such a thing?
      - throwawaycoder 13y ago
        I don't know what you are going on about? Did I claim it is pleasant? Nevertheless it would be nice to meet you and do the experiment. One thing: I can't imagine I would remain sitting next to you.