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The site has a page on "Vimanika shastra"[1] ("Science of Flying Machines"), which is known to be a bullshit text from the 20th century[2]. Definitely a Hindut

The site has a page on "Vimanika shastra"[1] ("Science of Flying Machines"), which is known to be a bullshit text from the 20th century[2]. Definitely a Hindutva site. [1] https://sites.google.com/site/ancientbharat/aeronautics https://sites.google.com/site/ancientbharat/aeronautics [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaim%C4%81nika_Sh%C4%81stra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaim%C4%81nika_Sh%C4%81stra

s-topper 13y ago
>>>Definitely a Hindutva site. And, your point is? That site also has collections about works of legit ancient Indian mathematicians, Vedas etc. So, you are going to disregard them because they're Hindus? If somebody mentions about these things, then they're said to be peddling this so called Hindu propaganda. Now, THAT'S a real propaganda.
- wrongc0ntinent 13y ago
  Makes for a questionable source, which is important for any serious study. Propaganda: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
- pramalin 13y ago
  It is really pathetic to see how people try to defend their fundamental beliefs without any substance. People are brainwashed to believe that vedic scriptures are full of knowledge (I was a victim too. I used to recite some parts of the scriptures like purusha suktam). In reality, the scriptures are filled with filth like procedures of sacrificial, bestiality and orgy rituals, calls upon gods to slaughter their enemies (who have stolen their herds), etc. Ambedkar was very diplomatic in his criticisms towards them. Osho was not so kind. See: http://www.osho.com/library/online-library-rigveda-tulsidas-heritage-c6e3574f-06c.aspx http://www.osho.com/library/online-library-rigveda-tulsidas-... You can also see that the site claims that Jyotish is astronomy but it actually means astrology. Here is the description of Saturn in one of the texts "Parashara Hora Sastra" http://archive.org/stream/ParasharaHoraSastra/BrihatParasharaHoraSastraVedicAstrologyEbook_djvu.txt http://archive.org/stream/ParasharaHoraSastra/BrihatParashar... 29. [Saturn] has an emaciated and long physique, has tawny eyes, is windy in temperament, has big teeth, is indolent and lame and has coarse hair. What is legit or scientific about it?
  - mayanksinghal 13y ago
    > What is legit or scientific about it? Nothing. And no one here is claiming that all parts of these texts are to be taken as absolute fact with empirical proof. Most of it, as you mention, is riddled with imaginary stories probably because scientific discovery was being carried out by religious philosophers of that time. However, there are parts of these texts that are legitimately impressive, philosophically or scientifically - and a blanket denial of that would be just as unjust as the 'filth'.
    - pramalin 13y ago
      But the site says: ... [sages] wrote Vedas - the manual of vibrations. Following this many field of science evolved ... I have provided references to show that the basic 4 vedas are tribal in nature and there is no basis to claim them as the origin of other scientific oriented texts. I am not denying all of the texts as bad.
  - s-topper 13y ago
    It is really pathetic to see how people are quick to snub off anyone or anything that's related to Hinduism, ancient Hindu works, scriptures etc as propaganda, brainwash etc. Is it some kind of reverse propaganda?? >>>You can also see that the site claims that Jyotish is astronomy but it actually means astrology. Where? They do mention it as "astrology". >>>In reality, the scriptures are filled with filth like procedures of sacrificial, bestiality and orgy rituals, calls upon gods to slaughter their enemies (who have stolen their herds), etc. >>>29. [Saturn] has an emaciated and long physique, has tawny eyes, is windy in temperament, has big teeth, is indolent and lame and has coarse hair. What is legit or scientific about it? Have you heard of mythology, euhemerism, and personification? Out of all those stuff on that site, you zeroed-in on sacrificial rituals, description of Saturn, and dismissed everything as "filth"? Then, what is your say on Ganit Shastra, Kaam Shastra, Khagol Shastra to name a few? Based on that logic, all these below must be filth and their sole purpose is to brainwash people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythologies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythologies

s-topper 13y ago

>>>Definitely a Hindutva site. And, your point is? That site also has collections about works of legit ancient Indian mathematicians, Vedas etc. So, you are going to disregard them because they're Hindus? If somebody mentions about these things, then they're said to be peddling this so called Hindu propaganda. Now, THAT'S a real propaganda.

wrongc0ntinent 13y ago
Makes for a questionable source, which is important for any serious study. Propaganda: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
pramalin 13y ago
It is really pathetic to see how people try to defend their fundamental beliefs without any substance. People are brainwashed to believe that vedic scriptures are full of knowledge (I was a victim too. I used to recite some parts of the scriptures like purusha suktam). In reality, the scriptures are filled with filth like procedures of sacrificial, bestiality and orgy rituals, calls upon gods to slaughter their enemies (who have stolen their herds), etc. Ambedkar was very diplomatic in his criticisms towards them. Osho was not so kind. See: http://www.osho.com/library/online-library-rigveda-tulsidas-heritage-c6e3574f-06c.aspx http://www.osho.com/library/online-library-rigveda-tulsidas-... You can also see that the site claims that Jyotish is astronomy but it actually means astrology. Here is the description of Saturn in one of the texts "Parashara Hora Sastra" http://archive.org/stream/ParasharaHoraSastra/BrihatParasharaHoraSastraVedicAstrologyEbook_djvu.txt http://archive.org/stream/ParasharaHoraSastra/BrihatParashar... 29. [Saturn] has an emaciated and long physique, has tawny eyes, is windy in temperament, has big teeth, is indolent and lame and has coarse hair. What is legit or scientific about it?
- mayanksinghal 13y ago
  > What is legit or scientific about it? Nothing. And no one here is claiming that all parts of these texts are to be taken as absolute fact with empirical proof. Most of it, as you mention, is riddled with imaginary stories probably because scientific discovery was being carried out by religious philosophers of that time. However, there are parts of these texts that are legitimately impressive, philosophically or scientifically - and a blanket denial of that would be just as unjust as the 'filth'.
  - pramalin 13y ago
    But the site says: ... [sages] wrote Vedas - the manual of vibrations. Following this many field of science evolved ... I have provided references to show that the basic 4 vedas are tribal in nature and there is no basis to claim them as the origin of other scientific oriented texts. I am not denying all of the texts as bad.
- s-topper 13y ago
  It is really pathetic to see how people are quick to snub off anyone or anything that's related to Hinduism, ancient Hindu works, scriptures etc as propaganda, brainwash etc. Is it some kind of reverse propaganda?? >>>You can also see that the site claims that Jyotish is astronomy but it actually means astrology. Where? They do mention it as "astrology". >>>In reality, the scriptures are filled with filth like procedures of sacrificial, bestiality and orgy rituals, calls upon gods to slaughter their enemies (who have stolen their herds), etc. >>>29. [Saturn] has an emaciated and long physique, has tawny eyes, is windy in temperament, has big teeth, is indolent and lame and has coarse hair. What is legit or scientific about it? Have you heard of mythology, euhemerism, and personification? Out of all those stuff on that site, you zeroed-in on sacrificial rituals, description of Saturn, and dismissed everything as "filth"? Then, what is your say on Ganit Shastra, Kaam Shastra, Khagol Shastra to name a few? Based on that logic, all these below must be filth and their sole purpose is to brainwash people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythologies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythologies