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We've All Got a List

24 points by xs_kid 13y ago

vezzy-fnord 13y ago
Public Open Source Developer Blacklist, major version 4, minor version 2, revision 6: Entry #846: Guy McGee. Offense: Rejecting a commit that consisted of nothing but changing two gendered pronouns. Notes: Vehement sexist, may be dangerous. Projects: Works on GenericWebStartup. ----------------- Yeah, I can see how this could quickly devolve. Even if the initial intentions are benevolent, if someone truly committed something as serious as sexual assault, they would be assigned into an already existing sex offenders' registry. On the other hand, "dismissiveness towards someone in a marginalized group" is something very vague and can be abused easily by people harboring personal vendettas. The end result? People self-censoring on an unprecedented level.
overgard 13y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy This sort of thing always turns out well.
- matdesigner 13y ago
  lol. totes like that, bro.
  - Tohhou 13y ago
    Ah, an SRS poster.
- rjknight 13y ago
  The title is a bit unfortunate. It reminded me of this[1] more than anything else. I can't imagine it's a deliberate reference though. (This must be the first thread where I've actually played a comedy British person.) [1] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Mikado/Act_I/Part_Va http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Mikado/Act_I/Part_Va
knowitall 13y ago
It's all just about wanting power. Such a list would be a nifty device. Edit (there was one upvote before I wrote this): Another issue: could such a list enable people to sue for getting a job, on the grounds that they had been discriminated against for being on the list? Actually one reason I am opposed to feminism is that they seem to reject the notion that I should be able to decide who I like or not by myself (and it's not that I dislike people because of their gender or race - it's just a basic principle that I want to be in power of my own mind, thank you very much). Now they turn that on it's head - of course, not liking people is OK, if it's the feminists who do the not liking. Edit 2: another thing, she should read some books by Dan Ariely. Turns out the "rational theory of crime" (claiming people commit crimes because they are unlikely to be caught or punished) does not explain things very well. Iirc people commit crimes because they can rationalize that they are still good people if they do so, for example they might feel they somehow deserve it, they see others doing it so they feel entitled to it, too, stuff like that.
- abraininavat 13y ago
  Um, what? I think your definition of "feminism" is a bit flawed. Could you explain which part of feminism rejects the notion that you decide who you like?
  - knowitall 13y ago
    In a way that is the essence of political correctness, it tries to establish a general law for your preferences. The article here is a case in point - it's not enough that everybody has their own list, now there has to be a public list, under control of the feminists. Of course feminism has more aspects than that, I don't define feminism in that way.
    - abraininavat 13y ago
      Feminism is about how people are treated, not about who you like. No one cares who you like. By the way, what is with this "the feminists" bullshit? It's not a society. People of all walks of life, who believe that women deserve the same respect and rights men do, call themselves feminists. It is a sure sign of a small mind to go around blaming shit on supposedly homogeneous and insidious groups like "the feminists," "the communists," or "the homosexuals."
Tohhou 13y ago
In other words, never talk with people who self identify as ideologue extremists.

24 points by xs_kid 13y ago

Public Open Source Developer Blacklist, major version 4, minor version 2, revision 6: Entry #846: Guy McGee. Offense: Rejecting a commit that consisted of nothing but changing two gendered pronouns. Notes: Vehement sexist, may be dangerous. Projects: Works on GenericWebStartup. ----------------- Yeah, I can see how this could quickly devolve. Even if the initial intentions are benevolent, if someone truly committed something as serious as sexual assault, they would be assigned into an already existing sex offenders' registry. On the other hand, "dismissiveness towards someone in a marginalized group" is something very vague and can be abused easily by people harboring personal vendettas. The end result? People self-censoring on an unprecedented level.

overgard 13y ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy This sort of thing always turns out well.

matdesigner 13y ago
lol. totes like that, bro.
- Tohhou 13y ago
  Ah, an SRS poster.
rjknight 13y ago
The title is a bit unfortunate. It reminded me of this[1] more than anything else. I can't imagine it's a deliberate reference though. (This must be the first thread where I've actually played a comedy British person.) [1] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Mikado/Act_I/Part_Va http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Mikado/Act_I/Part_Va

knowitall 13y ago

It's all just about wanting power. Such a list would be a nifty device. Edit (there was one upvote before I wrote this): Another issue: could such a list enable people to sue for getting a job, on the grounds that they had been discriminated against for being on the list? Actually one reason I am opposed to feminism is that they seem to reject the notion that I should be able to decide who I like or not by myself (and it's not that I dislike people because of their gender or race - it's just a basic principle that I want to be in power of my own mind, thank you very much). Now they turn that on it's head - of course, not liking people is OK, if it's the feminists who do the not liking. Edit 2: another thing, she should read some books by Dan Ariely. Turns out the "rational theory of crime" (claiming people commit crimes because they are unlikely to be caught or punished) does not explain things very well. Iirc people commit crimes because they can rationalize that they are still good people if they do so, for example they might feel they somehow deserve it, they see others doing it so they feel entitled to it, too, stuff like that.

abraininavat 13y ago
Um, what? I think your definition of "feminism" is a bit flawed. Could you explain which part of feminism rejects the notion that you decide who you like?
- knowitall 13y ago
  In a way that is the essence of political correctness, it tries to establish a general law for your preferences. The article here is a case in point - it's not enough that everybody has their own list, now there has to be a public list, under control of the feminists. Of course feminism has more aspects than that, I don't define feminism in that way.
  - abraininavat 13y ago
    Feminism is about how people are treated, not about who you like. No one cares who you like. By the way, what is with this "the feminists" bullshit? It's not a society. People of all walks of life, who believe that women deserve the same respect and rights men do, call themselves feminists. It is a sure sign of a small mind to go around blaming shit on supposedly homogeneous and insidious groups like "the feminists," "the communists," or "the homosexuals."

Tohhou 13y ago

In other words, never talk with people who self identify as ideologue extremists.