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Might be because lots of us are not using a CMS. For a simple blog page you don't even need a backend - just generate static sites with jekyll. Having a 3rd pa

Might be because lots of us are not using a CMS. For a simple blog page you don't even need a backend - just generate static sites with jekyll. Having a 3rd party solution for comments is thus necessary (if you want to have comments).

buster 13y ago
I can understand that simple reason of course. But 1. many obviously dynamic sites use disqus anyway and 2. why would i want to split my own content (blog + discussion) when obviously i want to have a dynamic site? Ok, some people don't care, some people only have static webspace.. to me it seems strange anyway. _Especially_ since this seems to be about an open source alternative for self hosting (so, you have a static blog but still host a dynamic comment section? wtf?)
- pfortuny 13y ago
  Ah, but you know: the loading time and the CPU. You outsource the dynamic part to disqus and the actual content gets loaded really fast.
  - buster 13y ago
    And you lose commenters (like me) and give away control over parts of your site as well as content. Also by the time you outsource a comment system due to CPU your site probably is big enough for a "real" CMS.. or atleast better hardware, it's not like a good vserver is expensive nowadays.
    - Bahamut 13y ago
      Not everyone is a knowledgeable web developer, or is interested in the security maintenance of a custom solution, of which you have even less knowledge about the data they collect. For example, I have a friend who runs a small business selling music samples. He uses WordPress because it is a simple solution that can do a lot for him without a super amount of technical savvy. I think WordPress is disgusting, but the point is, there is a market for these products. If you feel strongly against this trend, you should consider developing one that drives your vision that has similar practical value.
    - pfortuny 13y ago
      Those may be prices worth paying for some users...

buster 13y ago

I can understand that simple reason of course. But 1. many obviously dynamic sites use disqus anyway and 2. why would i want to split my own content (blog + discussion) when obviously i want to have a dynamic site? Ok, some people don't care, some people only have static webspace.. to me it seems strange anyway. _Especially_ since this seems to be about an open source alternative for self hosting (so, you have a static blog but still host a dynamic comment section? wtf?)

pfortuny 13y ago
Ah, but you know: the loading time and the CPU. You outsource the dynamic part to disqus and the actual content gets loaded really fast.
- buster 13y ago
  And you lose commenters (like me) and give away control over parts of your site as well as content. Also by the time you outsource a comment system due to CPU your site probably is big enough for a "real" CMS.. or atleast better hardware, it's not like a good vserver is expensive nowadays.
  - Bahamut 13y ago
    Not everyone is a knowledgeable web developer, or is interested in the security maintenance of a custom solution, of which you have even less knowledge about the data they collect. For example, I have a friend who runs a small business selling music samples. He uses WordPress because it is a simple solution that can do a lot for him without a super amount of technical savvy. I think WordPress is disgusting, but the point is, there is a market for these products. If you feel strongly against this trend, you should consider developing one that drives your vision that has similar practical value.
  - pfortuny 13y ago
    Those may be prices worth paying for some users...