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If your startup or organization has the kind of judgment that results in thinking it's somehow a good idea to bring alcoholic beverages into the office on Frida

by logjam 13y ago

If your startup or organization has the kind of judgment that results in thinking it's somehow a good idea to bring alcoholic beverages into the office on Fridays or any other days, neither I nor anyone else I know will want to do any work with you. Drinking is for after work, somewhere other than work.

fibbery 13y ago
I guess you don't know many people who work in tech in SF, then... companies regularly list office beer as a job perk along with the snacks and pingpong. In fact, I've never worked anywhere where drinking wasn't a significant part of the culture, including office drinking, during office hours (at least on Fridays).
- logjam 13y ago
  Uh, actually I work in the SF and Valley tech scene and know it intimately and extensively. You somehow want to have us believe this is a widespread and accepted practice - it's not among any reputable groups. The liability issues alone make "listing" drinking alcohol at work during or after office hours as a "job perk" even more moronic. But do feel free to list right here on HN the startups who proudly list beer drinking during office hours on office premises as a "perk". There are many of us who do business in the tech world who will consider that a public service announcement of organizations to avoid doing business with.
  - thesnider 13y ago
    I'm not really sure you could call the engineers that work at Google in MTV not a reputable group?
    - yongjik 13y ago
      Well, to be fair, Google doesn't list free beer as "perk"... (Not that it stops Google employees from feeling deeply entitled to have free beer every week...)
  - fibbery 13y ago
    OK. Well, here are a few ads that list alcohol as a perk that I turned up with a 5min search. * Atlassian: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/job/Team-Lead-Architect/af8692ef/?source=customer-cpc-indeed https://www.ziprecruiter.com/job/Team-Lead-Architect/af8692e... * Lookout: https://www.lookout.com/about/careers/detail?gh_jid=2221&gh_src=i6q0om https://www.lookout.com/about/careers/detail?gh_jid=2221&gh_... * Yelp: http://www.yelp.com/careers http://www.yelp.com/careers * Twitter's job page shows employees with the classic red solo cup: https://twitter.com/jobs/why_work https://twitter.com/jobs/why_work * Shop it to me: http://www.jobscore.com/jobs/shopittome/data-integration-engineer/agOMz2nOir44t5eJe9fLhG?Board=Indeed&PID=1437097 http://www.jobscore.com/jobs/shopittome/data-integration-eng... * Disqus: http://boards.greenhouse.io/disqus/jobs/2629?t=ug5j4s http://boards.greenhouse.io/disqus/jobs/2629?t=ug5j4s * Cozy: http://www.ventureloop.com/ventureloop/jobdetail.php?r=f_in&jobid=189167 http://www.ventureloop.com/ventureloop/jobdetail.php?r=f_in&... * Blackboard: http://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH07/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=BLACKBOARD&cws=8&rid=8487 http://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH07/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org... As well as bunch of other names I've never heard of (Forio, Reesio, thredUP, UberConference, FiveStars, PagerDuty)
joshguthrie 13y ago
Wow, lay down the hate. You're talking about this as if the idea was to get everyone drunk at work. Spoilers: it's not. Sure, "I do not want to drink at the workplace, I don't mix work and fun". It's sad you feel that way but you can't deny the team-building aspects. The good thing about "drinking at work" is that it doesn't exclude anyone. You don't have to think "we're going to bar X, how will I get there? then come back home?". You're already there so staying up 20 minutes to an hour more just to relax and do something different with your colleagues is not too much of a hassle[1] :) [1]: Unless you don't like your coworkers in which case you should look for a new job.

by logjam 13y ago

fibbery 13y ago

I guess you don't know many people who work in tech in SF, then... companies regularly list office beer as a job perk along with the snacks and pingpong. In fact, I've never worked anywhere where drinking wasn't a significant part of the culture, including office drinking, during office hours (at least on Fridays).

logjam 13y ago
Uh, actually I work in the SF and Valley tech scene and know it intimately and extensively. You somehow want to have us believe this is a widespread and accepted practice - it's not among any reputable groups. The liability issues alone make "listing" drinking alcohol at work during or after office hours as a "job perk" even more moronic. But do feel free to list right here on HN the startups who proudly list beer drinking during office hours on office premises as a "perk". There are many of us who do business in the tech world who will consider that a public service announcement of organizations to avoid doing business with.
- thesnider 13y ago
  I'm not really sure you could call the engineers that work at Google in MTV not a reputable group?
  - yongjik 13y ago
    Well, to be fair, Google doesn't list free beer as "perk"... (Not that it stops Google employees from feeling deeply entitled to have free beer every week...)
- fibbery 13y ago
  OK. Well, here are a few ads that list alcohol as a perk that I turned up with a 5min search. * Atlassian: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/job/Team-Lead-Architect/af8692ef/?source=customer-cpc-indeed https://www.ziprecruiter.com/job/Team-Lead-Architect/af8692e... * Lookout: https://www.lookout.com/about/careers/detail?gh_jid=2221&gh_src=i6q0om https://www.lookout.com/about/careers/detail?gh_jid=2221&gh_... * Yelp: http://www.yelp.com/careers http://www.yelp.com/careers * Twitter's job page shows employees with the classic red solo cup: https://twitter.com/jobs/why_work https://twitter.com/jobs/why_work * Shop it to me: http://www.jobscore.com/jobs/shopittome/data-integration-engineer/agOMz2nOir44t5eJe9fLhG?Board=Indeed&PID=1437097 http://www.jobscore.com/jobs/shopittome/data-integration-eng... * Disqus: http://boards.greenhouse.io/disqus/jobs/2629?t=ug5j4s http://boards.greenhouse.io/disqus/jobs/2629?t=ug5j4s * Cozy: http://www.ventureloop.com/ventureloop/jobdetail.php?r=f_in&jobid=189167 http://www.ventureloop.com/ventureloop/jobdetail.php?r=f_in&... * Blackboard: http://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH07/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=BLACKBOARD&cws=8&rid=8487 http://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH07/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org... As well as bunch of other names I've never heard of (Forio, Reesio, thredUP, UberConference, FiveStars, PagerDuty)

joshguthrie 13y ago

Wow, lay down the hate. You're talking about this as if the idea was to get everyone drunk at work. Spoilers: it's not. Sure, "I do not want to drink at the workplace, I don't mix work and fun". It's sad you feel that way but you can't deny the team-building aspects. The good thing about "drinking at work" is that it doesn't exclude anyone. You don't have to think "we're going to bar X, how will I get there? then come back home?". You're already there so staying up 20 minutes to an hour more just to relax and do something different with your colleagues is not too much of a hassle[1] :) [1]: Unless you don't like your coworkers in which case you should look for a new job.